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Guy Courchesne
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| Aren't the proprietors of street food stands small-business owners? |
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Sorry Phil, you are wrong here. Most require permits issued by the delegaciones to operate. In fact, AMLO opened up a system whereby certain permits were reserved for people past retirement age, to open up a certain market to them.
Many, many do operate without a permit of course. Why not take a trip down to your delegacion and ask how to open such a puesto to find out exactly how it's done? Such puestos are the most successful businesses in Mexico after all, averaging an 11 year life span, over an average of 2 years in every other industry. |
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Phil_K
Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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Location: A World of my Own
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| Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| Aren't the proprietors of street food stands small-business owners? |
No! . |
Sorry Phil, you are wrong here. Most require permits issued by the delegaciones to operate. In fact, AMLO opened up a system whereby certain permits were reserved for people past retirement age, to open up a certain market to them.
Many, many do operate without a permit of course. Why not take a trip down to your delegacion and ask how to open such a puesto to find out exactly how it's done? Such puestos are the most successful businesses in Mexico after all, averaging an 11 year life span, over an average of 2 years in every other industry. |
I am not wrong. AMLO is part of the problem. Just because a corrupt politician wants to buy votes from the riff-raff doesn't legitimize an illegal, and anti-social activity.
In what way do you measure the success of these "businesses"? I'm sure that I could somehow tap into the base instincts of the masses and make a mint. How about a brothel?
The only trip I'll make to the delegation is to inform them that the online form on their website - which is supposed to allow decent people to complain - doesn't work. |
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Guy Courchesne
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City
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| Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:14 am Post subject: |
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| Guy Courchesne wrote: |
| Phil_K wrote: |
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| Aren't the proprietors of street food stands small-business owners? |
No! . |
Sorry Phil, you are wrong here. Most require permits issued by the delegaciones to operate. In fact, AMLO opened up a system whereby certain permits were reserved for people past retirement age, to open up a certain market to them.
Many, many do operate without a permit of course. Why not take a trip down to your delegacion and ask how to open such a puesto to find out exactly how it's done? Such puestos are the most successful businesses in Mexico after all, averaging an 11 year life span, over an average of 2 years in every other industry. |
I am not wrong. AMLO is part of the problem. Just because a corrupt politician wants to buy votes from the riff-raff doesn't legitimize an illegal, and anti-social activity.
In what way do you measure the success of these "businesses"? I'm sure that I could somehow tap into the base instincts of the masses and make a mint. How about a brothel?
The only trip I'll make to the delegation is to inform them that the online form on their website - which is supposed to allow decent people to complain - doesn't work. |
I'm sure grandma would be proud to have that printed on her application for the food stall permit. Estado Civil: Riff-Raff. 
Geez, Phil you have some issues. Do you feel the same way about chip trucks in the UK? I'm trying to imagine you scoffing at some of the most iconic hot dog stand or philly cheese steak sandwich places in the US, or poutine trucks and beaver tail stands in my own town. |
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Isla Guapa
Joined: 19 Apr 2010
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Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana
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| Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:59 am Post subject: |
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Geez, Phil you have some issues. Do you feel the same way about chip trucks in the UK? I'm trying to imagine you scoffing at some of the most iconic hot dog stand or philly cheese steak sandwich places in the US, or poutine trucks and beaver tail stands in my own town. |
I suggest Phil never visit New York City, or Philly for that matter. Both cities are crawling with riff-raff selling some of the best street food in the world, and often from all over the world, not to mention the breakfast trucks dispensing bagels and cream cheese, coffee and doughnuts. Oy, I'm getting hungry and homesick at the same time! |
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jaimem-g
Joined: 21 May 2010
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Location: The Desert, CA
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| Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:01 am Post subject: Food or a job? |
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Boy, did this topic ever get highjacked! 
But I'm still remembering the torta lady in Chapultepec Park. Best torta I've had anywhere! |
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Isla Guapa
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Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana
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| Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:32 am Post subject: Re: Food or a job? |
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Boy, did this topic ever get highjacked!
But I'm still remembering the torta lady in Chapultepec Park. Best torta I've had anywhere! |
I agree! Tell me when you're coming back for a visit, and I'll make a lunch reservation for us! |
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uh huh
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Or come to San Pedro la Laguna Guatemala  We'll eat pupusas and talk with street vendor Sonia about Las Siete Leyes Espirituales del Exito, the first book she's ever read. Pupusas and inspiration are a sublime combination.
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Phil_K
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| Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Eccentricity is not, as dull people would have us believe, a form of madness. It is often a kind of innocent pride, and the man of genius and the aristocrat are frequently regarded as eccentrics because genius and aristocrat are entirely unafraid of and uninfluenced by the opinions and vagaries of the crowd. - Edith Sitwell
Well, I'm neither a genius nor an aristocrat (nor eccentric, in my eyes), but I hope you get the point!
And Guy, I thought you wanted to go into politics. Don't you have issues? |
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kona
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Location: USA
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Questions regarding finding a job |
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Hello,
I'm a 28 year old Brit who has spent the last 6 years teaching in Asia and is currently travelling in the US. I worked for 3 years in a language school in Japan & 3 years in the public schools in Korea. I have a BSc in Comp Sci and a 100 hour online TEFL certificate. I am hoping to find a job in Mexico next year, and am flexible as to when and where I will work. My questions are..
1) What does my lack of certification as a teacher/degree in English/TEFL stop me getting?
2) Are the jobs in public schools a step above the language schools as they are in Japan + Korea? If so, what kind of salary would I be looking at getting? I assume they can be applied for out of country?
3) What time of the year do most jobs start?
I'm not hugely motivated by money. I'm travelling round the world by bike and before I head into Latin America want to work on my Spanish. I figure that spending 6-12 months in Mexico working at a job would give me the immersion that I want to improve my Spanish.
As an alternative...
What kind of expenses am I looking at to spend 6 months as a student? I live frugally so don't mind eating a quite ridiculous amount of beans and rice. I'm definitely around the beginner level of Spanish at the minute. |
In an effort to get this forum back on the right track, let me first say that your 100 hr online teaching certificate is, more than likely, worth squat, especially if it says online on the certificate. However, your experience may count for something depending on the school (i.e. if your persistent enough you may be able to do a demo lesson that shows your know what your doing). If your goal is to learn spanish, I would look at the Universidad Nacional Aut�noma de M�xico (UNAM), they have cheap classes and branches throughout mexico and if nothing else, you can try and do intercambio ("interchange", basically you teach me english I teach you spanish) at a language institute if they have a spanish program.
If you got a decent amount of cash on the side, then I would try coming down and checking out guadalajara and mexico city and see if you can line anything up with the ton of institutes there are in both those cities. if you got no debt to pay on a monthly basis, then those jobs can probably be enough to live on. Also, check out couchsurfing.com to find places to stay and ways to meet up with locals, its great way to get to know the cities.
Also, if your cycling through mexico, I would recommend staying on the panamerican highway through sinaloa and to not even go into michoacan, those are dangerous areas to be. in fact, try and read up on the places with bad narco trafficking as it help you avoid some bad areas.
Finally, make sure you eat the street food: its soooooo good and totally worth it. In fact, in my experience, I find the street food in mexico is on average better than the food in more expensive restaurants, plus its cheap and your helping your local abuelita down the street! don't let phil guilt trip you, the people that make that food work their asses off to prepare it and it often involves a vested interest in an entire family. |
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Phil_K
Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Finally, make sure you eat the street food: its soooooo good and totally worth it. In fact, in my experience, I find the street food in mexico is on average better than the food in more expensive restaurants, plus its cheap and your helping your local abuelita down the street! don't let phil guilt trip you, the people that make that food work their asses off to prepare it and it often involves a vested interest in an entire family. |
Yeah, and you'll be doing your bit to improve the economy and culture of Mexico. You can even help your fellow country-woman in Mexico City who will happily help you spend $800 to take you on a tour of the delightful food stalls of the city.  |
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Guy Courchesne
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Phil, where is that woman's blog? I can't seem to find it. I think it is through Chilanglish, isn't it? Found this entry btw.
http://chilangish.com/2011/06/5-must-eats-on-the-street/
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| If your goal is to learn spanish, I would look at the Universidad Nacional Aut�noma de M�xico (UNAM), they have cheap classes and branches throughout mexico... |
Definitely second that...hands down the best Spanish courses in Mexico. |
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Phil_K
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Maybe she's been rumbled! |
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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006
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Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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| Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: Food or a job? |
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| Isla Guapa wrote: |
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Boy, did this topic ever get highjacked!
But I'm still remembering the torta lady in Chapultepec Park. Best torta I've had anywhere! |
I agree! Tell me when you're coming back for a visit, and I'll make a lunch reservation for us! |
Could you give us the exact location?  |
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Prof.Gringo
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Canada 1986, be careful -- there's plenty not to like here as well, including a proliferation of American chain restaurants...McD, Burger King, Chili's TGIF, Bennigan's come to mind right off the top of my head. But my point is that Mexico has its share of cultural norms that are not particularly appealing...as is true of every culture.
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If you don�t like it, don�t eat it. Funny thing is, the Mexicans can�t seem to get enough...   |
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Prof.Gringo
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| Guy Courchesne wrote: |
Geez, Phil you have some issues. Do you feel the same way about chip trucks in the UK? I'm trying to imagine you scoffing at some of the most iconic hot dog stand or philly cheese steak sandwich places in the US, or poutine trucks and beaver tail stands in my own town. |
I suggest Phil never visit New York City, or Philly for that matter. Both cities are crawling with riff-raff selling some of the best street food in the world, and often from all over the world, not to mention the breakfast trucks dispensing bagels and cream cheese, coffee and doughnuts. Oy, I'm getting hungry and homesick at the same time! |
When I visited NYC, I stopped at some cart selling peanuts and whatnot, business was slow and I talked the guy running the cart into giving me my grub for half-off. |
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