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Shimokitazawa
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| veiledsentiments wrote: |
Sadly, many (most?) employers do not respond unless you are being considered... nor do they tell you don't make the cut. I am surprised that ZU is one of those, but I suspect that they are being buried in applications now that people are avoiding HCT, so they just may not be able to do so.
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Thank you, VS.
I only sent the 2nd e-mail asking for confirmation and nearly 2 weeks later I finally received confirmation that they had received my application materials and online application.
I assume then that they're inundated with applications and people trying to get on with them for 2012. Sounds competitive now. I've been watching for several years now and finally made the leap to start applying for jobs in the M.E. and maybe I've picked a bad time to do so.
Lots of people looking for positions now, particularly with all the problems over at HCT. |
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2buckets
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Location: Middle East
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:29 am Post subject: |
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" maybe I've picked a bad time to do so. "
first rule of the ME: patience.
Just keep trying; persistence wears down resistance. |
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mishmumkin
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| Shimokitazawa wrote: |
| veiledsentiments wrote: |
Sadly, many (most?) employers do not respond unless you are being considered... nor do they tell you don't make the cut. I am surprised that ZU is one of those, but I suspect that they are being buried in applications now that people are avoiding HCT, so they just may not be able to do so.
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Thank you, VS.
I only sent the 2nd e-mail asking for confirmation and nearly 2 weeks later I finally received confirmation that they had received my application materials and online application.
I assume then that they're inundated with applications and people trying to get on with them for 2012. Sounds competitive now. I've been watching for several years now and finally made the leap to start applying for jobs in the M.E. and maybe I've picked a bad time to do so.
Lots of people looking for positions now, particularly with all the problems over at HCT. |
The HR contact at ZU is notoriously....inadequate at corresponding with new hires. I found recruiting w/ HCT to be much more responsive during the application/hiring process. |
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It's Scary!
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I must agree...
It's like night and day...but it's quality-based as well...HCT is desperate to hire..ZU isn't! |
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diodeone
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| Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:05 am Post subject: |
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I believe that the PhDs are required for content courses, not TEFL... at least my friends who teach there only have MAs. (the linked ad was for content courses)
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They have a person with an MA on their faculty. |
Here's a list of the current faculty at the ZU College of Education and their qualifications.
http://www.zu.ac.ae/main/en/colleges/colleges/college_education/faculty_staff/index.aspx |
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Eisenhorn
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Location: HCT Land. UAE
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| A little birdie I know at ZU tells me that if you are in the college of education you must have PhD (or be working on one at a minimum) to be considered for a position with the college of education. Now if you are in the general education section, or are EFL you can get hired with the MA and experience. |
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diodeone
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mishmumkin
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| It's Scary! wrote: |
I must agree...
It's like night and day...but it's quality-based as well...HCT is desperate to hire..ZU isn't! |
Actually ZU is in need of at least 25 Academic Bridge positions, and that may or may not just be Abu DHabi campus alone. Their funding has just come through, apparently. |
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Tiger Beer
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| Just curious, how much do they pay the professors they hire with a PhD? |
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Gus Barkley
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Pay here is like pay most other places: A Ph.D. in Philosophy will make much less than a Ph.D. in Engineering. I thought it was a little level here but I've learned that (if anything) the inequality may be higher.
I don't work ZU but I'd be shocked if anyone with a Ph.D. made less than 19,000. I also wouldn't be surprised by those surpassing 40k in some disciplines. |
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Gus Barkley
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Mere days after writing the post above I found out that an acquaintance with a PH.D. was offered a position with Associate rank and pay of Dh 12,000. So I guess totally ignore the post I wrote above.  |
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Tiger Beer
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 6:45 am Post subject: |
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| Gus Barkley wrote: |
| Mere days after writing the post above I found out that an acquaintance with a PH.D. was offered a position with Associate rank and pay of Dh 12,000. So I guess totally ignore the post I wrote above. |
That is exceptionally low for a PhD. Around $3,200/month. |
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Gulezar
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| I would say that at least 19,000 AED a month is to be expected if one has a PhD. 12,000 AED is extremely low, even for lowly ESL folk with Masters. That said, in this day and age I would not doubt that there are places offering 12,000 AED. Salaries are certainly sliding down. |
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