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3% |
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10% |
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4% |
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MidEastFeast
Joined: 18 Oct 2011
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| Los Angeles here. Hoping to find work in the ME. |
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Kiwi303
Joined: 20 Nov 2010
Posts: 165
Location: Chong Qing Jiao Tong Da Xue, Xue Fu Da Dao, Nan An Qu, Chong Qing Shi, P. R China
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| Well, spiral, with about 30 people having votes so far, the fast majority are showing up as Americans. I think in the end the majority of people who choose to vote will be in that category, too. |
I've just done a weighted average based on the population of the specifically mentioned countries that had votes at the time of my post, and came up with the following order:
NZ
Can
Aus
UK...
and last but not least,
USA
Well, I have nothing else to do at the moment!
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Well another Kiwi voted, to make 2 from 4 million people... |
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LongShiKong
Joined: 28 May 2007
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I did a rough calculation based on current pop stats. As I suspected, and especially given the fact at least a 1/3 of Canadians are not native English speakers, it makes Canada the most overly represented country in TEFL and possibly in int'l school teaching.
USA: 312,833,000 = 72% (of the total of these 5)
UK: 62,300,000 = 14%
Can: 34,605,346 = 8%
Aus: 22,800,812 = 5%
NZ: 4,432,800 = 1% |
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Guy Courchesne
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City
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| I'm not surprised by that. I'd bet the number would creep even higher if the Korea board were represented here (hard to say if it is or not). Korea is very over-represented by Canucks. |
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Isla Guapa
Joined: 19 Apr 2010
Posts: 1520
Location: Mexico City o sea La Gran Manzana Mexicana
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| Guy Courchesne wrote: |
| I'm not surprised by that. I'd bet the number would creep even higher if the Korea board were represented here (hard to say if it is or not). Korea is very over-represented by Canucks. |
Why do you suppose that is so? What do you suppose attracts Canadians to the job market in South Korea? |
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littlelauren86
Joined: 20 Sep 2011
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Location: Korea
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USA!!  |
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Guy Courchesne
Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City
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| Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:18 am Post subject: |
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| Isla Guapa wrote: |
| Guy Courchesne wrote: |
| I'm not surprised by that. I'd bet the number would creep even higher if the Korea board were represented here (hard to say if it is or not). Korea is very over-represented by Canucks. |
Why do you suppose that is so? What do you suppose attracts Canadians to the job market in South Korea? |
Paying off student loans with the work in Korea would be my guess as to the main attraction. Recruiting outfits for Korea are big in Canadian cities as well. |
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steki47
Joined: 20 Apr 2008
Posts: 1029
Location: BFE Inaka
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| Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 8:51 am Post subject: |
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| LongShiKong wrote: |
| it makes Canada the most overly represented country in TEFL and possibly in int'l school teaching. |
Given the comparative populations of the US and Canada, I have met a lot of Canadians in Japan. Nothing wrong with that, but the proportions are out of whack.
I asked a few Canadians about that. Canadians seem to travel more and I have heard that domestic flights can be prohibitively expensive, making a flight from Vancouver to Seoul cheaper than to Montreal.
Plus, a lot of our students like the generally clear pronunciation of Canadians. |
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contented
Joined: 17 Oct 2011
Posts: 136
Location: اسطنبول
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| Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:22 am Post subject: |
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| Guy Courchesne wrote: |
| Recruiting outfits for Korea are big in Canadian cities as well. |
I got my first TEFL job through a Canadian recruiting agency (I'm American though). And yes, I went to Korea. In Korea, the TEFLers I met were mostly American, Canadian and Australian. |
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Teacher in Rome
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
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| UK! |
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santi84
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
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Location: under da sea
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I grew up in Vancouver, British Columbia. There is a very large Korean population, particularly in the "bible belt" of the Fraser Valley which attracts a lot of Korean immigrants. Vancouver itself has a sizable Korean community although the majority of Asian immigrants are from Hong Kong and mainland China.
We were actually solicited for ESL work in South Korea in high school, not just university (yes!). Korean is taught in many public schools and a lot of students take Korean or Japanese instead of French, the other official language.
All your Korean friends/fellow students would tell you how great Korea was and how fun it was to teach there. When I started my post-grad TESL program at university, I was the only one without experience teaching in Korea (although I had extensive experience teaching Korean students here).
That isn't even to mention to campaign to recruit university students at the universities - you'll see posters/recruitment booths set up everywhere.
Korean (or Japanese or Chinese) bilingualism is a massive asset when applying for work in Vancouver. You can get a degree in Korean at the University of British Columbia. |
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Steinmann
Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Posts: 255
Location: In the frozen north
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
| Pah! Nation states are a passe bourgeois concept which will be swept away by historical inevitability and we shall all live as one in a global brotherhood of man ☭ |
Not in our lifetimes, товарищ. |
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Sashadroogie
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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Location: Moskva, The Workers' Paradise
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| Ha ha! Won't you be left red-faced after we declare a world union!!!! HA!!!! |
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LongShiKong
Joined: 28 May 2007
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Location: China
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| santi84 wrote: |
| We were actually solicited for ESL work in South Korea in high school... |
I've spent time in Vancouver, even teaching Koreans but didn't know that. I guess it helps explain why TEFL.COM doesn't even list Korean jobs or why here on Dave's Korean job ads only slightly outnumber Chinese ones (1284:1201) while Korean job-related forum posts vastly outnumber China's (42,790:10,124). |
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santi84
Joined: 14 Mar 2008
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Location: under da sea
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| LongShiKong wrote: |
| santi84 wrote: |
| We were actually solicited for ESL work in South Korea in high school... |
I've spent time in Vancouver, even teaching Koreans but didn't know that. I guess it helps explain why TEFL.COM doesn't even list Korean jobs or why here on Dave's Korean job ads only slightly outnumber Chinese ones (1284:1201) while Korean job-related forum posts vastly outnumber China's (42,790:10,124). |
I assume it's not done anymore due to degree requirements but yes, it was common back when I was 16  Which wasn't that long ago (10-12 years ago). It was also a popular idea that you could get a teaching position easily due to 'connections' that everyone & their mother had  Not sure if that is true either, but it is still a popular idea and at least generates interest in teaching.
I miss good Korean food, it's rare out here in Montreal. I used to live 2 minutes from H-Mart, if you are familiar. |
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