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Lasting Friendship and TEFL
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the 'damaged' bit of the 'friends' issue

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Of the hundreds of teachers I've met in Poland only 3 stand out as being odd. In the Gulf, the ration goes up to 1 in 2 although I don't think it's the place's fault


I remember quite a few oddballs in my start-up years in Prague. They were all at newbie level in terms of qualifications, though some had been in the city for years. They seemed mostly to be stuck in a sort of teenage stage in terms of relationships - totally attracted to the newest, shiniest teacher/student/local, but never making it past the initial stages of getting to know someone. I've got a very high tolerance for alchohol, but many of these 'broken' types seemed to be really addicted on a 24-hour/day basis.

I haven't encountered many other 'damaged' teachers in my career, but I've mostly been in a relatively ivoried tower of universities, I guess. Now, damaged and incompetent MANAGEMENT - that's another story!!
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DebMer



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
I think that before internet, I'd have lost touch with most all my friends over the years, honestly, but email makes it really easy to stay in touch. I don't have a lot of expectations about constant contact, though - obviously when people get busy moving or starting new jobs or having children and etc the rate of contact drops off, but I really have lost touch with literally only one or two people maximum over the past decade.


This is true for me, too. The Internet has reunited me with long lost cousins and grade school friends I would otherwise never have found. It has even given me good friends whose faces I've only seen in photographs, but who I count among the important people in my life.
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artemisia



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it�s quite natural to have friends that come and go if you move around quite a lot, regardless of the reason why you move. That could be because I mostly end up making friends with those of similarly lazy mindset. But I�ve gone years without any contact with someone and then it�s suddenly all started up again and the friendship just continues, more less, where it left off (with an overall �catch-up�).

Sometimes you have friends at particular stages of your life and they don�t always reflect your later views � you (or they) move on in ways that have nothing to do with physical distance. Likewise, I know I�ve ended up being friends with those I�d never have dreamed of wanting to know at a younger age because of our differences eg; having very different political views. Moving around can sometimes have the effect of making you become more tolerant and open than you might otherwise have been, but I'd agree that maintaining contact over a long period of time does require a certain amount of effort on both sides.
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Madame J



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good thread.

As one or two others have said, I'm not really in contact with any ex colleagues save for the occasional facebook status reply/"like", but I've maintained contact with the majority of local friends I met though other means when teaching in Indonesia. Admittedly that was only a year and a bit ago so things could change, but I've so far managed to stay in touch with a lot of people far better than I could have imagined.

As for other expats, that's a bit different. There's a small number of people I occasionally exchange emails/facebook chats with, but it's pretty sporadic. I do still think of them as people I could visit anytime I fancied a trip to their country, but we've lost the closeness we used to have in a way I don't think I have with the majority of my Indonesian friends. Why there's a difference, I'm still wondering.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:04 am    Post subject: Re: Lasting Friendship and TEFL Reply with quote

sharter wrote:
For my part, I'm still good friends with those I met in the early part of my career in Poland and some of those I met in Qatar between 2000 and 2003; Facebook has been a godsend in that respect. Libya was different as I was home a lot but we all got along well.

Interesting question Sharter... I hadn't really thought about it. I must say that I was surprised and find it sad that so many people haven't made long time friends at their overseas jobs. Of course, ending up living in different countries all over the world means that it isn't the same friendships people have who lived and worked in the same town their whole life. (or even most of it) So, I went to my email address book and Facebook.

At the three places that I worked 3 or 4 years, I still correspond quite regularly with 6-10 people from each place - either by email or Facebook. And this goes back to the mid-80s. Most of them are fellow teachers, but there are a few "locals" on the list. I have a half dozen students who keep me informed of jobs, further degrees, marriages and new babies. There are at least 5 people that I met here on Dave's that I correspond with regularly and have for many years... some I have even met eventually, like JohnSlat.

VS
(PS I'm not so sure about the "damaged" label, but there were certainly a higher than normal number of real eccentrics in the Middle East. Cool)
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Prof.Gringo



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Lasting Friendship and TEFL Reply with quote

EFLeducator wrote:
Prof.Gringo wrote:
Aw shucks EFLeducator, I thought we were best buddies... Razz


Dang Prof. Gringo, I forgot about you. You were the coolest American I met in the beautiful DF. I was thinking about crazy Jimmy who spent that year and a half in China then two weeks in Mexico City before he took off to Texas to work for Target. Laughing


Glad to know we are cool. How is that career @ Target working out for your buddy? Razz
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