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notamiss · Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:17 pm Post subject:

A big cluster of snack vendors gather outside every primary school at dismissal time. How many parents give in to their kid�s desires for a sweet treat, and make it a daily habit? Observation suggests that the answer is �many.�

Dragonlady · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:36 am Post subject:

the peanut gallery · Joined: 26 May 2006 Posts: 264

It is being suggested that many people make poor choices regarding their health and well being. My post attempted to address the OP's question about food choices for diabetics in Mexico. No need to bust out the Wiki.

MotherF · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:25 pm Post subject:

ton a bricks · Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 56 Location: Mexico City

I wonder if the people saying whole wheat bread is easy to find in Mexico City really eat the stuff? It has been my experience to have to travel pretty far and wide to find it here, and even when I do, often when I go back for it they have run out or stopped stocking it. I would say about one in eight small panaderias have real whole wheat bread, and maybe one in four big supermarkets. I think partly because of the heat in Mexico, many businesses don't want to sell wholewheat bread because it goes rotten after a few days in the heat, whereas whitebread has no nutritional value so it just decays as opposed to rotting. Soriana stores do have wholewheat bread (centeno or rye) but in some stores it is 80% white flour while some it is the real thing.

I am not so sure I would tell someone who is diabetic that Mexico is a good place to settle unless they are really willing to devote a lot of time to their diet. I am not a diabetic, but don't eat sugar and it is an ongoing struggle to find foods that are not full of sugar, although it is the traditional diet that comes closest.

ton a bricks · Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 56 Location: Mexico City

Here is a link to an article about Pan Bimbo being sued a couple of years back for falsely claiming that their bread was wholewheat.

http://eleconomista.com.mx/negocios/2009/01/29/piden-sancion-bimbo-vender-pan-integral-falso

MotherF · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:32 pm Post subject:

I was going to say something about Bimbo. I think as well as Bimbo--most of the little panadarias are offering bread that is part whole wheat part not whole week and using panela instead of refined surgar to darken it so it looks "healthier".

Personally I think the answer is to eat less bread of any type. I will confess that I bought myself a bread machine in 1999, back before carry on restrictions were so tight, I carried it on the plane. I still use it at least once a week. But I don't eat bread everyday.

Notamiss have you tried getting flour in bulk at the market? Here I can buy trigo molido from wheat producers for 12 pesos a half kilo (recently gone up from 10). You might try a bulk dry goods seller at your local market, someone who sells amaranth and oats in bulk. They might have wheat too.

notamiss · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:22 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out. I've never paid attention to grains at the market.

Anyway, today I found whole wheat flour at the Comercial again. 14.50 per kilo bag.

BadBeagleBad · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: Whole wheat bread

BadBeagleBad · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:14 pm Post subject:

Well, that doesn't surprise me, pan Bimbo has always been caca. But I think Melee hit the nail on the head when she said there isn't enough information out there for people to make informed decisions. And for some it is simply economics, they buy what they can afford, cheap cooking oil, for example, instead of olive oil. Walmart makes super cheap crap white bread, far cheaper than Bimbo, though probably not crappier.......Now what I would like is for someone to start carrying Veggie Burgers. And I would love to have a whole wheat bun to put them on.

BadBeagleBad · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:18 pm Post subject:

Notamiss, I don't know where you live in the city, but there is a Chedrahui in Polanco that used to be a Carrefour and has all kinds of things you won't find anywhere else, including a decent variety of flours. You can also just make your own oat flour by grinding whole oats in a blender. I have made some great oat bread that way, then add a handful of whole oats into the dough. Doesn't have to be brown to be delicious.

MotherF · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:51 pm Post subject:

BBT
I have several easy veggie burger recipes, I'll look up then post over in the recipe thread.

notamiss · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:39 pm Post subject:

cgage · Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 73 Location: Memphis

I assume you can buy breadmakers in Mex. Correct?
Coke Zero in Mexico? It's my only weakness (actually, it's not my only weakness)
As an unfortunate expert in diabetes, I can say that the docs have determined that it isn't sugar per se that's bad, its carbohydrates. Of course, sugars not the best thing for diabetics but its no longer considered a poison as it was before.
The main thing for a diabetic is to find simple, repeatable menus that will not cause upset stomach, which really throws diabetics out of whack.
Chiles are good but not so great as part of an everyday diet, at least for gringo diabetics.
I just asked my Mexican cook to make some vegeterian Zacatecan enchiladas. No problem there!

Guy Courchesne · Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 9650 Location: Mexico City

We looked for a breadmaker for a long time and only ever found one at Sears once...and it was pricey. We brought an old one down from Canada a few years ago and when it broke down, we couldn't find anyone to service it.

Coke Zero is common here...