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naturegirl321
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Hmmm, by going on a average of 120 an hour you'd have to be extremely lucky with scheduling or be willing to work 7 days a week and work 10 - 12 hours a day if you include preparation and travelling time to make over 19k a month.
Realistically by teaching at hourly rate of the average of 120rmb an hour and at different schools the most you could hope for is around 15k a month and for that you'd be teaching around 30 hourly classes a week and then you'd have to factor in the travelling time to different schools. |
I'm hoping to make an extra 6000 rmb a month doing exams. 3 weeks of grading writing or one intensive weekend of oral exams can get you 3000 ish.
How about group lessons? Charge 60 an hour and have 6 students would earn you 360 an hour. Make them pay a month in advance and hold classes in your home. Do that for 10 hours a week and that'll get you 14,400 rmb a month. If you had a regular uni job that pays 6000, that would allow you to earn just over 20K.
Maybe writing curiculum? Teaching big wig CEO types? Tutoring for exams?
As for prep, you can probably tweak your current lessons. You don't have to re-invent the wheel every time you teach a lesson. |
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therock
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| Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
| therock wrote: |
Hmmm, by going on a average of 120 an hour you'd have to be extremely lucky with scheduling or be willing to work 7 days a week and work 10 - 12 hours a day if you include preparation and travelling time to make over 19k a month.
Realistically by teaching at hourly rate of the average of 120rmb an hour and at different schools the most you could hope for is around 15k a month and for that you'd be teaching around 30 hourly classes a week and then you'd have to factor in the travelling time to different schools. |
I'm hoping to make an extra 6000 rmb a month doing exams. 3 weeks of grading writing or one intensive weekend of oral exams can get you 3000 ish.
How about group lessons? Charge 60 an hour and have 6 students would earn you 360 an hour. Make them pay a month in advance and hold classes in your home. Do that for 10 hours a week and that'll get you 14,400 rmb a month. If you had a regular uni job that pays 6000, that would allow you to earn just over 20K.
Maybe writing curiculum? Teaching big wig CEO types? Tutoring for exams?
As for prep, you can probably tweak your current lessons. You don't have to re-invent the wheel every time you teach a lesson. |
Doing exams such as IELTS etc is a total different ballgame in terms of income. I was referring as was the previous poster to the standard school part time rate of 120rmb an hour.
All your other suggestions take time to make contacts and are a good but unreliable source of income. |
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ecubyrd94
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| Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:40 am Post subject: |
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The part time teachers at my school make about 19-20k rmb per month for 20-21 forty minute classes a week. They are only required to be on campus 30 minutes prior to their 1st lesson and can leave immediately after their last class of the day. They, however, get no housing and aren't paid for the 12 weeks of vacation time or national holidays. It's not a bad gig if you have side action going on, I would think.
I'll take my full time position over that, even though I'm required to be on site for 40 hours a week. My wife works as well, so I have no problem with a typical western style work week with ample paid vacation/holidays and a decent housing allowance. |
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twilothunder
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| Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:54 am Post subject: |
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| naturegirl321 wrote: |
Teaching big wig CEO types?
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In my experience, serious professionals in the upper echelons of management will pay very good money (in Beijing, up to 800rmb per hour in some cases), but at that level they EXPECT someone who has a good working command of Business/Economics language and can demonstrate that with credentials (Business/Economics degree and work experience in industry). They also expect bang for their buck - no turning up to one of their occassional spare hours in the day with just a couple of handouts of 'English for negotiations' or something.
Forget about teaching to those people at those rates if you don't have the above, unless you are very, very lucky in terms of the connections you make. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:37 am Post subject: |
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| ecubyrd94 wrote: |
The part time teachers at my school make about 19-20k rmb per month for 20-21 forty minute classes a week. They are only required to be on campus 30 minutes prior to their 1st lesson and can leave immediately after their last class of the day. They, however, get no housing and aren't paid for the 12 weeks of vacation time or national holidays. It's not a bad gig if you have side action going on, I would think.
I'll take my full time position over that, even though I'm required to be on site for 40 hours a week. My wife works as well, so I have no problem with a typical western style work week with ample paid vacation/holidays and a decent housing allowance. |
Sounds like a good PT job. |
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Opiate
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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I, like the OP, chose a lesser salary and sanity. I could work 40ish hours a week if I look very hard and get lucky with schedules. At 120 an hour (which is on the low side) that would be over 19k RMB a month.
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Hmmm, by going on a average of 120 an hour you'd have to be extremely lucky with scheduling or be willing to work 7 days a week and work 10 - 12 hours a day if you include preparation and travelling time to make over 19k a month.
Realistically by teaching at hourly rate of the average of 120rmb an hour and at different schools the most you could hope for is around 15k a month and for that you'd be teaching around 30 hourly classes a week and then you'd have to factor in the travelling time to different schools. |
Yes, I did say you'd have to be lucky with schedules. I do consider myself fortunate considering my lack of qualifications. I earn a decent enough wage without busting my hump. I agree that 4k USD a month with minimal quals would be an absolute ball breaker for most people but it is certainly possible.
Currently between my primary job and side gigs I have one and a half days off and finish work no later than 3:30 during the week with the exception of one 2hr evening class. Weekends are much busier though Sunday I am still home at 4:30 which is reasonable. Prep time is practically nonexistent. For that I am above your 15k mark but below the 19k mark. I can not do this schedule consistently and would not want to. My day job is for consistency, the rest is just gravy. I can take it or leave it as my wants and needs dictate. I like that particular freedom. |
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MisterButtkins
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:19 am Post subject: |
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| ecubyrd94 wrote: |
| The part time teachers at my school make about 19-20k rmb per month for 20-21 forty minute classes a week. They are only required to be on campus 30 minutes prior to their 1st lesson and can leave immediately after their last class of the day. They, however, get no housing and aren't paid for the 12 weeks of vacation time or national holidays. It's not a bad gig if you have side action going on, I would think. |
?? that's well over 200 an hour, what sort of school is this? |
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ecubyrd94
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| MisterButtkins wrote: |
| ecubyrd94 wrote: |
| The part time teachers at my school make about 19-20k rmb per month for 20-21 forty minute classes a week. They are only required to be on campus 30 minutes prior to their 1st lesson and can leave immediately after their last class of the day. They, however, get no housing and aren't paid for the 12 weeks of vacation time or national holidays. It's not a bad gig if you have side action going on, I would think. |
?? that's well over 200 an hour, what sort of school is this? |
Yes, it is over 200 per class. This is a school for expat children from a neighboring country that is supported by that government and tuition from students. |
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naturegirl321
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Sounds good, how's the stress? I was looking at KIS in Changchun, but not sure I'd want to move from kimchi land and still have to deal with that stress and the Chinese stress. |
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ecubyrd94
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| Sounds good, how's the stress? I was looking at KIS in Changchun, but not sure I'd want to move from kimchi land and still have to deal with that stress and the Chinese stress. |
Ha! I get what you mean. I'm pretty adapted to how things work (or don't for that matter). China stresses me no more or less than there did. I like working there, in all honesty. It's a great job for me (not everyone). |
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