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tideout
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| Samantha wrote: |
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| At least down here there is still work and, if you have the credentials you can still make$1,000 U.S. or more. |
Trained and experienced teachers, who have earned appropriate degrees, land the good jobs and make a fair bit more money than the equivalent of $1000 USD. That said, different areas of the country have different job opportunities. There are areas where someone with only a short ESL course will be unable to find work at all, other than perhaps private lessons. |
No argument from me on your post, but I'm curious what areas in Mexico you consider to be that locked up & what makes it that way? |
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Samantha
Joined: 25 Oct 2003
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Location: Mexican Riviera
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| Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Beach resort areas. |
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Prof.Gringo
Joined: 07 Nov 2006
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Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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| Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:22 am Post subject: |
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| tideout wrote: |
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Mexicans were never studying English because they wanted to go pick onions in Texas or wash dishes in a New Jersey pizza parlour. They've never needed English for that. Mexicans study English to work in the tourism industry, or to move up in their jobs at Proctor and Gamble. Mexicans who study English know that it's not just Americans who speak it. They also speak it to their German managers at the Volkswagon plant. And of course the latest academic research and industrial equipment manuals are all in English.
Over the past 15 years more and more universities have made English courses a requirement in all degrees.
As more of the young adults opt to go to college instead of going to the US. There will be in increase in demand for teachers qualified to teach those classes.
This can only mean the market will get better. Especially for those with academic qualifications. |
You may very well be right - I certainly don't disagree with some of your reasoning in that the lower skilled trades might not have been headed to English lessons. I can't help but wonder if their kids would have a different perspective on the importance of English though?
I can think of least several cases in the school I worked in Mexico that don't neatly fit your description. One guy was a college graduate who'd worked illegally in Seattle but wanted to study/improve his English. Another woman who had relatives living in the US who felt like she could spend time in the States and at least one of the Mexican teachers in the school who'd lived and worked a bit illegally in NJ as a teen. In other words, these were all educated folks who could conceivably see work opportunities or connections diminish in a country that seems prone to arresting them w/o cause.
In any case, thanks for your thoughts on it - reasonable points. |
The so-called "cause" is violating the immigration laws. I don't agree with them much myself, but I am not going to cry a river for those who send as much money as possible out of the US economy and lower the payscale all around.
In the USA we don't need any more unskilled migrants that just want to make a fast buck, build a big house back in Zacatecas and have a few anchor babies while at it.
The US needs those with advanced degrees in science & engineering, obviously we aren't losing them to the world of EFL, we simply can not produce enough to be able to continue to compete and develop on a truly global scale.
I say raise the cap on the skilled immigrant visas (H-1b, I think...) from 50,000 annually to at least 500,000 or even more. |
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