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HLJHLJ
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I think that which you find more stressful is simply down to what you find more stressful. I completely agree about maturity levels, but that goes all the way down through the levels. An 18 year old may well behave like a 13 year old, but if you are teaching 13 year olds they may act like 10 year olds, and so on down. I was comfortable teaching 7 year olds upwards in the UK, but I wouldn't want to teach 7 year olds in Japan.
I also think the workload is fairly similar overall. You do tend to get less contact hours at university level, but prep and marking typically take a lot longer. As NG said there is a tendency for more peaks and troughs at university, the workload is typically flatter at schools. But all of these are just generalisations and the specifics will of course vary from position to position. |
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tttompatz
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 7:42 am Post subject: |
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There often is, especially for those who are not well experienced, published and on the lecture circuit. Since you mentioned Korea, think $2.5k at an entry level uni job vs $4k at a "real" international school.
In Thailand it is 25k THB for a uni job vs 60-100k at a proper international school.
In China 3-6k rmb at your average, government, public uni vs 10-15k (or more) at a decent international school.
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You can still make decent - good money in Korea and the ME in the Uni's teaching 12 - 20 hours a week. Plus paid holiday ect. Id be willing to take a pay cut for those circumstances. As long as I can save 20k a year id be good. Then once I save enough head to SA. You can make pretty decent money at Uni's in SA when you consider cost of living (2-3K a month).
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Glad you think so... Far be it from me to burst your bubble...
but a newbie with a freshly minted MATESOL is not going to the top of the heap (not in Korea or anywhere else in Asia) but hey, what do I know.
I'm still new at this too.
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CarolinaTHeels
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| tttompatz wrote: |
Glad you think so... Far be it from me to burst your bubble...
but a newbie with a freshly minted MATESOL is not going to the top of the heap (not in Korea or anywhere else in Asia) but hey, what do I know.
I'm still new at this too.
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3mil for Uni gig and 1 - 1.5 for a part time gig. Good money to me and certainly not the "top of the heap" if my memory serves me correct. Don't quote me on that though.. lol |
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naturegirl321
Joined: 04 May 2003
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Location: home sweet home
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:24 am Post subject: |
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| I actually got in trouble for publishing. Takes away from work. |
University or international school? Which country? |
Uni, the country whose name shall not be spoken  But hey, it ONLY took 3 years, so it's not like I wasted a lot of time. 
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Glad you think so... Far be it from me to burst your bubble...
but a newbie with a freshly minted MATESOL is not going to the top of the heap (not in Korea or anywhere else in Asia) but hey, what do I know.
I'm still new at this too. |
3mil for Uni gig and 1 - 1.5 for a part time gig. Good money to me and certainly not the "top of the heap" if my memory serves me correct. Don't quote me on that though.. lol |
Sorry, going to quote .  . Salaries have gone down a lot and the exchange rate is worse. Can't talk about it much on this forum, but check the job boards, and my PM.
Tom knows what he's talking about. I think due to the economic issues that people are flooding the TEFL market here in Asia. It's an employer's market and it sadly it shows.  |
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CarolinaTHeels
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Hmm one would certainly need a 2nd job if all the Uni's are paying is 2.5 now no be able to save a decent amount. Thats pathetic when you consider fresh off the boat Hagwon teachers are getting 2.2
I think ill just get an alternative teaching license at the same time im getting my MA TESOL.
Kill two birds with one stone.
Then take the best offer I can get out of both sectors.
If I decide to go down the teaching / ESL path.... |
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Matt_22
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International schools can be financially rewarding in ways that only universities in the UAE and Japan could match. Even then, there are several top-tier international schools (International School of Bangkok, American School in Japan, Jakarta International School, etc.) that offer packages that no university ESL teacher could match.
It would be a big mistake to make a decision based on that alone, however. |
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CarolinaTHeels
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After some thought I have decided to go ahead and go the International School route starting out. I need to save some good money over the next 10 years to make up for my care free traveling early - mid 20 years.
Then go back and get my MA TESOL later down the road. |
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rayman
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| If you plan to have a child or two over the next 10 years, international school teaching will win out financially by an even greater amount. My current school charges tuition of between US$20 000- $28 000 per year. With waivers for our 2 children, that's close to a $50000/year benefit. |
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Matt_22
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| rayman wrote: |
| If you plan to have a child or two over the next 10 years, international school teaching will win out financially by an even greater amount. My current school charges tuition of between US$20 000- $28 000 per year. With waivers for our 2 children, that's close to a $50000/year benefit. |
Not to mention, international schools (especially top-tier ones) can be incredible places to send your children. The environment, culture, and teaching staffs at such schools can give your kids a better educational foundation than just about anything else. |
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