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blackobisk



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to be paying around 200 a month for school loans. I'm willing to go anywhere as long as it isn't too dangerous of an area and I don't want to have to share an apartment/flat.
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tttompatz



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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines

PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blackobisk wrote:
I'm going to be paying around 200 a month for school loans. I'm willing to go anywhere as long as it isn't too dangerous of an area and I don't want to have to share an apartment/flat.


Coming from someone in one of the most dangerous countries on the planet that made me chuckle.

Seriously, look to east Asia if you want work and the ability to pay off those loans.

150,000 new jobs for people with a degree who want to be a teacher (every year) across the region.
125,000 new applicants.

Wages vary significantly but SAVINGS (the thing that lets you pay off those bills and travel a bit on your vacations) can run from as low as $100/mo at the entry level in Thailand to as much as $1000/mo in Korea.

There are programs out there like JET in Japan that you may want to look at. Processing takes about a year so start looking now for jobs like those.

In places like Korea, China, and Taiwan you can also do OK and the lead time varies from as short as 60 days to as long as 4 months (the problem is YOU getting YOUR documentation in order before you can apply for a job.)

Basics that you will need (in your hot little hands) before you even start looking are:

=Completed degree (parchment in hand - letters and transcripts along won't cut it).

=University issued, sealed transcripts. (no, printing off a set from the internet won't work).

=passport with a MINIMUM of 1 year validity remaining. Best if you have 2 or 3 years (or more) remaining.

=Criminal Record Check (some countries want the FBI check but MOST will accept state level checks). Depending on your destination of choice it may need to be legalized and the shelf life (from date of issuance till expiry) is usually 6 months.

Once you are ready with everything in hand it will take 30-60 days to get a job, get a visa and get on a plane.

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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

200 dollars a month? That's about 6,500 rubles. An average private lesson in Moscow will pay about 2,500 to 3,500, per 90 min lesson. You'd only need three private lessons a month to cover your loan.

Work for a McSchool etc. and get a few privates. Bob's your uncle.
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Russia, if you go outside Moscow or St Petersburg, you should get your own flat and, if you are reasonably careful, you should be able to save up for your loan out of your earnings. If you decide to take in some private students, then it should be quite a simple matter.

However, you need to get CELTA/Trinity pronto and the longer you leave it, the more difficult it will be to get something for September/October.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A Celta or Trinity is not a legal requirement, though of course it is a must in terms of knowing how to do the job.
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A tefl certificate of some type is an employer requirement and I suspect getting an employment visa would be even more difficult without one. I cite Trinity/Celta merely because employers who specify a qualification almost always specify these. Also, with these course, you know pretty much what you are getting for your money.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Though the number is diminishing, there are still plenty of teachers in Moscow without any official cert. Not endorsing this, just pointing out that it is still possible.
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coledavis



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I didn't know that. I don't approve, but on principle, I do think we ought to know what is doable and what isn't.

Having said that, I would advise any would-be teacher in Russia to do some relevant training. It is one thing getting a job, another to keep it. If you prove to be an ineffective teacher, your novelty as a native speaker will wear off very quickly. (And it should be noted that language teaching is not the same as imparting knowledge of academic subjects - there is a lot to consider when it comes to methods, and the skills need to be practised, not just learned from a book. Although I am not decrying strategic reading, just saying that it is not enough by itself.)
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is quite true too.
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blackobisk



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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However, you need to get CELTA/Trinity pronto and the longer you leave it, the more difficult it will be to get something for September/October.

Which program should I be looking more into CELTA or Trinity TESOL? Should I go with CELTA and then later on get CELTA(YL)? I really want to be teaching younger children english. Also when should I enroll in these programs, I graduate in may of 2013 so would it be advisable to enroll in a program after I graduate and then start my job search afterwards? Should I be take the training in the country I want to work in?
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Tudor



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=1009191&highlight=#1009191

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?p=1001218&highlight=#1001218
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