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getDM
Joined: 05 Jul 2012 Posts: 24 Location: Taipei, Taiwan
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| Henry_Cowell wrote: |
| What techniques have you used with your own students in Taiwan who have expressed this concern with understanding other English speakers? Surely you have tried to help them in some way? |
Hello Henry
I've found and recommended international radio-stations, but there are very few, even through the internet. Some BBC radio4 documentaries and discussions often have non-native speakers speaking English, but the topics are usually high-brow and difficult to follow.
The plan is for teachers to collaborate in discussing common topics, record them, and pass them to classes in other countries to listen to.
Are you taking such a class? Using English internationally to communicate with other nationalities? |
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getDM
Joined: 05 Jul 2012 Posts: 24 Location: Taipei, Taiwan
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| haleynicole14 wrote: |
I think I may have originally learned of this link from another forum post, but I did a search and was happy to find this website again easily!
http://accent.gmu.edu/browse.php has recordings of English accents all over the world - great for helping students understand speaking differences between regions. |
Hello Hayley
That is brilliant! Thanks so much for digging this out and sending it my way (particularly like the way they break down the pronunciations phonetically)
I'll be including this, so on behalf of my students, we thank you
Do you hold discussion classes, for business or otherwise? |
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getDM
Joined: 05 Jul 2012 Posts: 24 Location: Taipei, Taiwan
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:34 am Post subject: |
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Hello Glenski
Thanks for all your thoughts, I agree with everything you say.
Allow me to bring attention to your fourth point:
| Glenski wrote: |
4) Teacher plans some Skype conversations with other country classes.
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Bingo, nail on the head. This is what I'm looking for on this forum. People to collaborate with.
Time differences make it hard (and some students will be too nervous to do this in realtime) so I propose we record our discussions and send them to each other.
Like postal chess, but with spoken discussion.
Are you holding any discussion classes which could provide some speech from your Japanese students? Just 4 or minutes from a few students? |
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getDM
Joined: 05 Jul 2012 Posts: 24 Location: Taipei, Taiwan
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:00 am Post subject: Re: English as a global language. |
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Hello KucingG
Thanks for your understanding, and points for discussion - so much to comment on!
| kucinggarong wrote: |
| rather than imposing one of the "standard" English rules on them [Canagarajah] argues that they should be free to seek to make meaning collaboratively, at the expense of "correct" grammar and lexicon. He sees English as a creole anyway, and that collaboration is at the centre of communication. |
Nicely put, I go with this. Not 'compromise', but 'collaborate', damn right.
| kucinggarong wrote: |
| ...it really is something that is increasingly important in the globalized business world... |
Yes, hugely. I have students working in teams stretching around the world and they use English as a tool for travel and business.
They don't need a British accent, nor do they need interesting-but-useless idioms like "Raining cats and dogs."
They need to understand English words spoken by team-mates in Japan, Russia, England, the US, Korea, (and the list goes on...)
regards, David |
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