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yoga2012



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, thanks for the input. I must say, after going over the contract, that I'm not inclined to accept not just for the money.....but I think I don't even get any sick leave. At least I got 11 days/contract year at my last job. Plus, I got paid during any winter or summer holidays. Is it pretty standard in China to not get paid during the summer or winter holidays??

Not to mention, if I don't give at least a day's notice, they'll actually penalize me a fine for each day I'm sick....so not pay me or give me a fine.... great.....


Good, we don't need sick people.



You know, I mentioned this for a specific reason. It certainly wasn't to get uncalled for rudeness about which you obviously know nothing.

I worked 4 years so far as an EFL teacher and didn't take more than 2 or 3 days each year my first 3 years....Never spent time in a hospital....that is until I accidently got a horrible infection from an alternative therapy for my back involving injections by a licenced doctor. (I have spondylolesthesis and want to exhaust all options before any surgical intervention...for which I'd spend at least a month recuperating from) It's rare but it happened to me. My 4th year was different in that I had to take leave for 16 days....5 days over the limit and didn't get paid for it either not to mention I got quite a bit of flack for that since it was my first year at that particular school and I spent 3 years at my prvious one where I never took more than 3 days each year. Bad timing, bad luck. My point is, sickness can happen to anybody when you LEAST expect it. I had no choice as I was in the hospital for well over 2 weeks and ended up having emergency surgery, spending a few thousand dollars even with national insurance. I was in complete agony for about 6 weeks trying to figure out what was happening to me, spending time in 2 hospitals before finally having surgery.

The guy I replaced at my first school made a point of telling me that no matter if he's sick or not, he'll damn well take all the sick leaves he can each year as they don't accumulate and it's his "right." I make a point of not abusing my "privilege" of taking all of my sick leaves if I don't need it.
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roadwalker



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yoga2012 wrote:
chinatimes wrote:
yoga2012 wrote:
Well, thanks for the input. I must say, after going over the contract, that I'm not inclined to accept not just for the money.....but I think I don't even get any sick leave. At least I got 11 days/contract year at my last job. Plus, I got paid during any winter or summer holidays. Is it pretty standard in China to not get paid during the summer or winter holidays??

Not to mention, if I don't give at least a day's notice, they'll actually penalize me a fine for each day I'm sick....so not pay me or give me a fine.... great.....


Good, we don't need sick people.



You know, I mentioned this for a specific reason. It certainly wasn't to get uncalled for rudeness about which you obviously know nothing.

I worked 4 years so far as an EFL teacher and didn't take more than 2 or 3 days each year my first 3 years....Never spent time in a hospital....that is until I accidently got a horrible infection from an alternative therapy for my back involving injections by a licenced doctor. (I have spondylolesthesis and want to exhaust all options before any surgical intervention...for which I'd spend at least a month recuperating from) It's rare but it happened to me. My 4th year was different in that I had to take leave for 16 days....5 days over the limit and didn't get paid for it either not to mention I got quite a bit of flack for that since it was my first year at that particular school and I spent 3 years at my prvious one where I never took more than 3 days each year. Bad timing, bad luck. My point is, sickness can happen to anybody when you LEAST expect it. I had no choice as I was in the hospital for well over 2 weeks and ended up having emergency surgery, spending a few thousand dollars even with national insurance. I was in complete agony for about 6 weeks trying to figure out what was happening to me, spending time in 2 hospitals before finally having surgery.

The guy I replaced at my first school made a point of telling me that no matter if he's sick or not, he'll damn well take all the sick leaves he can each year as they don't accumulate and it's his "right." I make a point of not abusing my "privilege" of taking all of my sick leaves if I don't need it.


Until last year, I had never taken a sick day from teaching EFL but ended up admitted to hospital (would def have been outpatient in the States). It was good to know the school was cool with that, even though I ended up missing more than a week of classes. They took care of the insurance claim too. Sick policy is not something I think about often but obviously can separate the good or decent jobs from the bad ones.
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chinatimes



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My point is, sickness can happen to anybody when you LEAST expect it.


I don't see how that entitles you to money from the school or the ability to pause their business while you get better.

They have a business to run with or without us. I can't expect a school to keep me employed if I am that sick. If you have an illness or a medical condition which would prevent you from working, it is unfortunate, but that is the reality of the situation. Be happy for the days you were able to work. If you do get better, great, then rejoin the workforce.

Too many people in the medical field are trying to find ways to "save lives". At best, all they can do is prolong the dying years, which in my mind are not going to be all that exciting if I can't stand up, walk, and use the toilet by myself.

If you can get insurance to cover your medical costs, then that is probably the luckiest position you could be in.
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