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Quagles
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I could be wrong, but, don't most of the teachers who aren't native speakers and work in foreign countries have degrees in English. I've known quite a few Poles who have taught English abroad but most had Master's degrees in English philology. One lady didn't have a degree but passed the CPE exam and had a CELTA. I really think that you should be focusing on getting the credentials more than figuring out which country you could slip into. You should have a degree in the language you are trying to teach anyway. Native speakers probably should too  |
I want to try it before I bet all my cards on it, if I don't like it I might as well save me the debt that comes from it. If I suddenly get the bachelor in English, im basically stuck in Norway for an additional time. I believe you need to start on your master 1 or 2 years after your bachelor is done..I dont want to spend more time here. I can just return and do it later if I like it. Only master gives specialization in teaching English unfortunately so the bachelor might just be a bit useless.
So my plan is, try to teach a year or two - IF I like it, return, take masters degree.
If I can't find a job - I guess ill just have to get the education then. |
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tttompatz
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| I could be wrong, but, don't most of the teachers who aren't native speakers and work in foreign countries have degrees in English. I've known quite a few Poles who have taught English abroad but most had Master's degrees in English philology. One lady didn't have a degree but passed the CPE exam and had a CELTA. I really think that you should be focusing on getting the credentials more than figuring out which country you could slip into. You should have a degree in the language you are trying to teach anyway. Native speakers probably should too |
I want to try it before I bet all my cards on it, if I don't like it I might as well save me the debt that comes from it. If I suddenly get the bachelor in English, im basically stuck in Norway for an additional time. I believe you need to start on your master 1 or 2 years after your bachelor is done..I dont want to spend more time here. I can just return and do it later if I like it. Only master gives specialization in teaching English unfortunately so the bachelor might just be a bit useless.
So my plan is, try to teach a year or two - IF I like it, return, take masters degree.
If I can't find a job - I guess ill just have to get the education then. |
Depending on your field of study, in my personal experience, the MA usually comes AFTER you have a few years of post graduate experience in your field not "need to start on your master 1 or 2 years after your bachelor is done".
Perhaps it is different in Norway.
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coledavis
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| I think it's country-specific. In the UK, many people go on to do a masters degree immediately or soon after finishing their undergraduate degree. I believe that Russia is also moving towards this model these days. |
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nomad soul
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| Same here. In the Middle East (where titles and the number of "initials" after your name is big), we often see nationals with MAs and even PhDs conferred within several years of the first degree. Also, the concept of having higher degrees in very separate, unrelated fields is unheard of. For example, you're not likely to see someone with, say, a BA in Business Management and an MA in TESOL. In other words, if you start out in a particular field, your academic path is expected to continue in the same or in a similar domain. |
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coledavis
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| In Britain, many masters degrees are in specialisms of the undergraduate general subject (e.g. psychology leads to clinical, organisational, educational psychology). However, there is such a thing as a 'conversion masters', a tough quite broadly based course. So, for example, a person with an undergraduate degree in any subject can take an MSc Computer Science at Hertfordshire and that is a conversion course. There are other subjects like this, but I don't know how widespread this is in other countries. Again, I think in Russia, people move from say, doing an undergraduate languages degree and some years later moving to law. |
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Quagles
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Quagles wrote: |
| sparks wrote: |
| I could be wrong, but, don't most of the teachers who aren't native speakers and work in foreign countries have degrees in English. I've known quite a few Poles who have taught English abroad but most had Master's degrees in English philology. One lady didn't have a degree but passed the CPE exam and had a CELTA. I really think that you should be focusing on getting the credentials more than figuring out which country you could slip into. You should have a degree in the language you are trying to teach anyway. Native speakers probably should too |
I want to try it before I bet all my cards on it, if I don't like it I might as well save me the debt that comes from it. If I suddenly get the bachelor in English, im basically stuck in Norway for an additional time. I believe you need to start on your master 1 or 2 years after your bachelor is done..I dont want to spend more time here. I can just return and do it later if I like it. Only master gives specialization in teaching English unfortunately so the bachelor might just be a bit useless.
So my plan is, try to teach a year or two - IF I like it, return, take masters degree.
If I can't find a job - I guess ill just have to get the education then. |
Depending on your field of study, in my personal experience, the MA usually comes AFTER you have a few years of post graduate experience in your field not "need to start on your master 1 or 2 years after your bachelor is done".
Perhaps it is different in Norway.
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I haven't been able to look into it in details as of yet but (generally finding trustworthy information in Norway is a really difficult task..), at least my friend who studies economics had to start her masters degree, within two years after she finished her bachelors degree.
Now it might be completely different for other subjects, who knows.
Anyway, the actual problem is that despite only missing two courses...they are only held during two separate semesters! So if I take them, I have to stick around for a whole year either way. Now I could take these part time and just take one course each semester and by that avoid having to take any loan, but since classes are mandatory..it might be difficult to find a job that would be willing to let me attend classes while working. Its surprisingly difficult finding part time jobs around here. I think it would have been a great solution though. |
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Informed & Concerned
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Quagles
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So I checked it out, it appears its only for very specific subjects and schools where you have to take your master within a certain period. So it appears that I'll probably finish my bachelor in English as well before I try applying.
Which is where another problem comes in...
The only semester the subjects im required to take is during the spring semester...which means I am not finished before June. I'm afraid that means I might be missing the job hunting season. I actually don't know when most people hire, but I think I heard it was during spring for many countries at, am I correct or wrong? I'd hate having to wait another 10months just to get a chance at some jobs.
Would I be missing the job application period in many countries by graduating so late? |
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