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jovencito · Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 46

All I can say is that people do take the risks and they do get residency after 3 years. I'll save the account about people who were caught during the 3 year period, were able to stay in Spain and got residency for later.

AGL81 · Joined: 18 Nov 2012 Posts: 8

Apart from being risky to the individual involved, it also (and I'm sure this has been discussed many times) is a real kick in the pants to all the teachers who are here legally.

Teachers who must work and be paid under the table cannot pick and choose, so they can go two routes, private classes or working for a school that's willing to hire them (and all too many are). Private classes, without having spent time here and building up contacts, is a no-go for most newbies, unless they compete on price, hence bringing wages down.

Same goes for acadmies that hire illegal teachers - often their only selling point is price, so they use illegals to pay less and thus charge less for their classes - this depresses prices, and thus wages, across the board, not to mention helping keep lots of unscrupulous academy owners in business.

jovencito · Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 46

Regarding bringing rates down and a serious lack of options, from my experience and comparing rates with my "con papeles y sin papeles" friends, it's certainly not true in Madrid. This is purely from personal observation and I can't speak for anywhere else in Spain.

AGL81 · Joined: 18 Nov 2012 Posts: 8

Um. Really?

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chica88 · Joined: 28 Dec 2012 Posts: 107

spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash

chica88 · Joined: 28 Dec 2012 Posts: 107

Both grandparents in question would have to be born on Spanish soil in Spain.
The grandparents child would have to be a full blooded Spaniard.
The grandparents child could be born elsewhere in the world.
And the grandparents would only have to be born in Spain even if they moved elsewhere the day after they were born to live out the rest of their life.
The birth certificate only have to state the grandparents in question where born in Spain.

As far as for me...

I had other issues to deal with so I did not follow through with the visa procedure.

Michael-Hunt · Joined: 15 Mar 2013 Posts: 5 Location: Spain

It's a nightmare for US citizens to get a visa to work in Spain. First you have to get a written job offer from an employer. As stated in other posts, you need confirmation by the Spanish unemployment office (INEM) that the postion you hope to fill has been advertised at the local unemployment office and that no suitable EU resident has applied (what are the odds with so many British and Irish nationals chasing the same jobs?). Then you have to visit the Spanish Consulate in the States to apply for a Spanish work visa. That requires a certificate from your local police force indicating you have no previous convictions, a certificate from your doctor saying you're not going to die any time soon and that you haven't got any contagious diseases, and loads more. If they grant you a visa after all this, you have to collect it in person in the States. Then, on your arrival in Spain, you have to do all the local paperwork. Sorry if this depresses you but I've been in Spain for years and I don't know of any Americans who have managed to get to the end of the process! Maybe marriage wouldn't seem so bad after all this!