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[veiledsentiments]

OK... that makes it all sound a bit more fair to the woman who took the job. I suspect that she soon regretted it. With projects like this, everyone slaps you for what goes wrong even if it wasn't your fault, but few notice and compliment you for what goes right.

VS
(and... 'chicks' are the tiny, and cute, offspring of chickens both male and female. Not your fellow professional educators who happen to be female. )

[trustedteacher]

[ With projects like this, everyone slaps you for what goes wrong even if it wasn't your fault, but few notice and compliment you for what goes right.

Is that not typical of YU, to blame you when things go wrong, but seldom compliment you when things go right? I think that is the culture here, passive aggressive society.

VS
(and... 'chicks' are the tiny, and cute, offspring of chickens both male and female. Not your fellow professional educators who happen to be female. )[/quote]

I like this, why is it that women are constantly referred to something else other then what we are supposed to be referred to? One of my friends told me that all men have some level of chauvinism in them, they sometimes cannot help themselves.
And as far as Citizenkane said about Saudi being a segregated society, that does not mean that women are not able to meet with men. That is one of the reasons why women here wear the abayah, however I think the complete segregation causes more problems then not. It is nice to be able to go to places like all women spas and malls so you can let your hair down. If you are a woman that observes hijab or niqab, then you need those outlets to be able to relax and not have to cover completely. Honestly I think here in Saudi they overdo it though. When I walk around I see men stare at me like I am an alien or something. In other societies where women and men are not so seperated, people tend to act more natural. When I spent a brief amount of time in the UAE it was totally different. For someone to live in KSA for a number of years you have to like and be able to tolerate that Wahhabi mentality. Otherwise, you would not last here. I have met women who have been here for over 15 years, they love it. However most of these women were observing niqab and full face covering prior to coming here. They create social settings in their houses so this place is perfect for them.
I think those of us looking at things from a Western standpoint have to understand that everything is not for everybody. People here in Saudi Arabia can also easily criticize how in America women maybe free to walk around dressed they way they want to, but at the same time on an average a woman in America is raped every three seconds. Here in KSA you do not hear that type of statistics. I'm not saying women dont get raped here but it does not happen as frequently as in the US. So there are ups and downs to every society.

[Layla Nightflier]

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[norwalkesl]

[Citizenkane]

[veiledsentiments]

Everything about that place is decidedly "odd"

VS

[trustedteacher]

Well looking at all of the posts that could be the reason why there is so much "bad vibes" at YU. If teachers are not encouraged to express what they feel is best for the students, and the students are not encouraged to express what is best for them then this can create a lot of tension in the work place.I thought feedback was something that was encouraged at YU.

[scot47]

If you look next to the "quote" sign when you are logged in, there is a box with an exclamation mark.

That is for reporting posts that you find offensive or questionable.

[trustedteacher]

Thank You Scot, I think that since John has already reported it, that it may not be neccessary. Maybe theonewhoknows will have the common sense to delete it himself. Let's see what happens!!!

(MOD edit: Offensive posts deleted. Offender banned. Discussion done.)