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merlin



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You only get one crack at living on this planet.

How sure are you about this?
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basiltherat



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, I've yet to meet someone who died then come back n tell me " Hi guys. I'm back. Just thought I'd let you know." Smile
basil
ps No, I dont know but I'm not reckoning on it.
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Mchristophermsw



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually, Jesus did come back.

And there has been people who have been clinicaly pronounced dead but then revived..

But I know what ya all really mean. Make the best of Life because you might not get another chance Wink
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Mark



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for teaching, "real" teaching is not just K-12 teaching. Language teaching is fundamentally different from K-12 teaching. We're basically trying to teach someone how to do something. It's a lot like being a music teacher or an athletic coach. If you want to be good at it, you have to study language theory, language acquisition theory, as well as classroom stuff. But, ultimately, we're not responsible for a kid's personal development and all that. Plus, if you primarily teach adults then it's a completely different thing.

The K-12 system is a completely different ball of wax. A "real" teacher is anyone who understands how to do what they do. Most EFL teachers are really just conversation partners who have little idea what they're doing. But that certainly does not mean that you can say that language teaching is not "real" teaching.
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Mark



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for finances/saving money, it all depends on situation. There's nothing stopping people from buying a condo, hiring a property management company and renting it out. Even if the rent didn't cover the mortgage plus management fees, it wouldn't be expensive to maintain, and then you can sell it when you're done.

But, at the same time, someone mentioned making a $100,000 profit on a house after living in it for 20 years and paying off the mortgage. But that's only $5,000 per year. Plus, that $100,000 will be worth less in 20 years than it is now. It's not that big a deal. If you just invested $5,000 a year for 20 years you'd probably end up with more money anyway.

It's my understanding that, on average, financial investments double every 8-10 years. If that's true, then it seems best to just set a goal of, say, $5,000 or $10,000 and put that into an investment account and also re-invest all of the interest. It'll build up to a pretty significant amount when you're ready to retire.

You can also invest in real estate fairly easily, even if you're abroad. You can pick up properties, sell them after 5 years or so for a profit and then re-invest in a better property. If you can eventually work your way up to a small apartment building, then you'll be doing pretty well in rent. There are management companies that will take care of the day-to-day concerns for you.

Anyway, I don't claim to know anything about money, and I don't have any myself at this point, but it seems like either or both of those options are relatively easy to do.
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Millions of people living on this planet--this poster included--believe in reincarnation.

To say that we only get one chance on this planet is western-christian-centric (at best) and implicitly racist at worst.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's my understanding that, on average, financial investments double every 8-10 years.


Depends a lot on where you invest it, to be honest. I don't invest (something to do with morality, but I guess it's a personal quirk) but do have an interest in financial/investment markets, particularly as they affect development.

And my thought for the day is- If you had invested $100 dollars in the stock market in 2000, how much would it be worth now? (While some stocks have done well, or had brief surges that a professional speculator might be able to exploit, the average performance of the market could be seen most easily in terms of "Margin Funds.") But the overall, average value of $100 dollars, invested in stocks in 2000 is...

















$88. Doesn't really keep up with inflation, does it?
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basiltherat



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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western-christian-centric (at best) and implicitly racist at worst


excellent. i love that. lol Smile


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Millions of people living on this planet--this poster included--believe in reincarnation.


which, getting back to my earlier point, i suppose offers one the opportunity to be miserable this time. For me personally ? Nah, I'm not taking that chance. cu

basil
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Gringo Greg



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonraven wrote:
Millions of people living on this planet--this poster included--believe in reincarnation.

To say that we only get one chance on this planet is western-christian-centric (at best) and implicitly racist at worst.


So, why can't we hold our beliefs? Just as valid as someone's belief in reincarnation is my own belief that we have but one life to live. What is wrong with thinking our own way instead of thinking the Moonie way? And you are calling me racist because I am Christian? I don't know how that computes, Moonraven. I am entitled to my belief and you are entitlted to yours, but when you say my views are wrong and insult me for having my views, that is when it is totally wrong.
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JonnytheMann



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To say that we only get one chance on this planet is western-christian-centric (at best) and implicitly racist at worst.


Moonraven, that's absurd. Just as absurd as this statement: To say that we get more than one chance on this planet is Eastern-Hindu-Buddhist-centric (at best) and implicitly racist at worst.

Are Muslims racist for not believing in reincarnation?


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merlin



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it follows that one's belief system determines to a great deal whether or not something is "a waste of time" or "a dead end".

This is why there are so many Christian missionaries teaching English for free. They even pay to do it. For them if they "save" one soul from the evil pagan Asian cults like death-worship or animism they see it as a valuable investment in time which they will cash in on in Heaven.

A nonreligious person is more likely to believe anything he can't spend or enjoy in this life is a waste of time.

And so on.

Alternatively, if all else fails just call someone a racist.
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Mchristophermsw



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moon,

I am not really sure were the whole religion and racist thing came along but heres my 2 cents for what it is worth with is probably not much.

First, Iam not white but Spanish and I was brought up in a "black" gospel church which has influenced my perception and relationship with God.
And I am thankful because without his strength I would most likely be dead by now.

However, I was also trained in the Church and as a Professional Social Work Clinician is to respect everyones view points and religions or lack of.
And to treat everyone with dignity and respect--which is what Jesus did in a nutshel.

Unfortunately, alot of religions including Christiananity have unfortunately left bitter tastes in peoples mouths by how people have been treated historically. And if, by chance you have had a bad experience with some of these type people, I apoligize on their behalf because God just wants us to love and be good to eachother ( Oh jeeze that sounded like Jerry Springer LOL Wink )

Have a blessed evening Moon, talk to ya later. Very Happy
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Kent F. Kruhoeffer



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greetings Good People:

This is the second and final warning.

On page 8, I kindly asked posters to stop attacking each other -

and the thread was locked for 24 hours and then reopened.

If the personal attacks continue, it will be terminated

with help from Tony the Bouncer.

<--- This is Tony.
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stillnosheep



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gringo Greg wrote:
moonraven wrote:
Millions of people living on this planet--this poster included--believe in reincarnation.

To say that we only get one chance on this planet is western-christian-centric (at best) and implicitly racist at worst.


And you are calling me racist because I am Christian [..] when you say my views are wrong and insult me for having my views, that is when it is totally wrong.


Gringo, nobody has called you a rascist or said that your views are 'wrong'. It has merely been pointed out that your beliefs are part of one tradition and that other traditions exist. This is not an insult unless you believe that the terms 'western' and 'christian' are insulting. 'Rascist' is an insulting term but you have not been called a rascist. At worst somebody has stated that your views could at worst be percieved as rascist. You are at liberty to back up your views with an appeal to evidence.
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Gringo Greg



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Religion is to each their own, I dont force my beliefs on others and I don't expect others to force their beliefs on me. I dont tell others that their religion is wrong and I expect the same courtesy from them.
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