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distiller · Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 249

Raven,

Once again you misunderstand the process. The republican pollwatchers in Ohio were challenged in court and unfortunately won. This does not give them power over someone's vote. What they were allowed to do is challenge a person's right to vote for various reasons. Those people still cast "provisional" ballots which after being verified are included or excluded from the count. Now how many people were intimidated by this or if there were other irregularities is uncertain. The real point though is whether or not there was systematic voter fraud and if it played a crucial role in the election. Currently, while there are some interesting as well as unsupported ideas on this subject, the arab conspiracy among the latter, but there is no hard evidence, yet. It doesn't mean it's not there. I for one think we have got to have a paper trail for every vote and that electronic voting machines pose a very real threat. At least that way there would be one less way of commiting election fraud.

justcolleen · Joined: 07 Jan 2004 Posts: 654 Location: Egypt, baby!

extoere · Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 543

Loon: "Rape?" In yer dreams, kid; in yer wildest fantasies! Stick to the Plaza where you can proselytize to a crowd matching the talents of your embouchure! And pick up a few pesos doing it ..... At least there your mouth is full of ----- it's mainly protein, isn't it?

Tart of Darkness: Hell, there was also a conference on breast feeding. Does that also make you salivate? A "cleansing" at the CIA is long overdue. Clean out all those worthless Ph.Ds in linguistics! What's in store? I dunno, but I got a feeling yer not gonna be able to resist the temptation of tellin' us .... And Rice becoming Sec of State ---- fan-friggin'-tastic! Where does it hurt ya, baby?

JustColleen: Monitors are sorely needed. I know for an absolute fact that illegal Mexicans vote in southern California. And yes, I know them personally. It's got to stop. Any illegal voting, either on the Left or Right is an outrage to an orderly Constitutional process. And I think you'd probably agree.

cheers,
ex

justcolleen · Joined: 07 Jan 2004 Posts: 654 Location: Egypt, baby!

When I voted I asked the two suits outright if they were "election monitors," and those were the words I used. They said they were.

Now, keep in mind this was shortly before two volunteers got into a rather unprofessional discussion about why ballots were being rejected. They each had their version of how the voter should mark their ballot, which they imparted loudly, then squabbled about.

It was something to do with voting a straight ticket, and where to mark the ballot for that, then whether to only fill out the other side or not, blah, blah, blah.

The monitors just watched.

Hey, has anyone read the results of the U.N.'s pledge to send monitors to the U.S. election? I haven't seen a word.

Colleen

Colleen

kev7161 · Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Posts: 5880 Location: Suzhou, China

Have you read this yet?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20041118/ap_on_go_co/delay

extoere · Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 543

Kevin, why should you be surprised by this? The Democrats and Republicans alike commit outrages. Rules are changed constantly to accomodate political desires. Occasionally, even the laws. As witness the passage by a Democratic Congress of a law giving specific immunity to a physician who removed her daughter from the country against a Federal Court injunction. And that specifically-targeted legislation granting immunity to a party of one was signed into law by none other than President Bush himself. The first Bush.

If DeLay is indicted, he'll be forced to stand down. If not, why should he?

ex

AsiaTraveller · Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:19 am Post subject:

kev,

DeLay, the most corrupt and criminal House character in decades, will now be allowed to keep his position of power in Congress even if indicted in Texas. Ain't that the icing on the cake?

Next they'll change their rules to allow convicted felons to continue holding their leadership positions from prison. Watch for it!!

extoere · Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 543

Tart: The Republicans don't have to change the rules at all. The Democrats already did some years ago. Allowed a black Congressman from Florida, a former federal judge who had just been paroled from hard time walkin' the yard on bribery charges to take his seat as Chairman of the Government Operations Committee. And, of course, there was their failure to remove a sitting President after clear evidence of perjury and obstruction of justice, and after his license to practice law had been revoked by the Arkansas Supreme Court and the U.S. Supreme Court.

It's not the Republican Way; it's the American Way.

ex

stillnosheep · Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2068 Location: eslcafe

It's not the American way. It's politics. And war is just the continuation of politics by other means.

dmb · Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Posts: 8397

Or is politics a continuation of war? Chicken or the egg?

AsiaTraveller · Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 5:06 pm Post subject:

The Americans have been following a regular pattern of war, expansion, subjugation, colonisation, occupation and politico-economic domination since their country was founded.

They obviously love it that way. Why should we expect them to change? Bullies remain bullies.

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

xxx: I come from the country--so I recognize horse s*h*i*t when I see it.

Marion Barry--now there's a blast from the past. He looks pretty good now compared to the Bush Gang--how many folks did he kill, precisely?

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

distiller--Moonraven misunderstands nothing. The Ohio legal tennis match that finally allowed "challengers" in the polling places was just another piece in the shell game. To monitor an election is not the same thing at all as challenging the right to vote of voters who appear to be of racial minorities.

As for "provisional" ballots, they are just a way of avoiding counting the votes made by the folks who were given them. Nobody counts those ballots, nor absentee ballots. I am not the only citizen who went back to the US to vote in person--there were enough folks who flew back from Germany to vote for it to make the news.

AsiaTraveller · Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 7:41 pm Post subject:

moonraven · Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 3094

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