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Master Shake
Joined: 03 Nov 2006
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Location: Colorado, USA
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 Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: erm |
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| Look Shake....I've been in and around Poland longer than any of you.....try blowing smoke to a newbie. |
If you're no newbie, then why are you quoting figures for yourself that a newbie is likely to earn?
As I've written countless times on here, there are opportunities to earn more if you look for them and know how to market yourself. You've obviously got an inflated opinion of yourself, so should be no problem for you.
Friend of mine gets more in-company work through his website than he can handle, all of which pays in the 120-150 zl/hr range. He's having to take on employees to cover it all.
If you're earning the figues you quoted after working in Poland, especially Warsaw, for more than a couple years, you're either doing something wrong or just can't be asked. |
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dragonpiwo
Joined: 04 Mar 2013
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Location: Berlin
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| Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:12 pm Post subject: erm |
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I'm not in Warsaw Shake and it's certainly different in the rest of Poland. The 70 figure is more or less an average of what others have posted. Even on 100 an hour, doing 30 a week, that's 12,000 minus tax and zus. Much, much less than I make now and soon I'll be only working 6 months of the year.
For the vast majority of TEFLers in Poland 6k is pretty good. |
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Posts: 899
Location: Gdansk, Poland
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Realities:
Roundtrip train ticket from Gdansk to Malbork (great place, loved the town and the Castle) was 40 zl. purchased 4 days in advance.
Two nights in a fantastic hotel was 270zl (my half). Breakfast was included (scrambled eggs, sausages & bekon served hot with toast, butter, cold-cuts & 6 types of cheeses, bottomless tea and coffee, yogurt, cereal, etc. and 24-hour filter-brewed coffee & tea. The room was better than any I have stayed excepting for the 5-star Bristol in Warsaw.
Admission to the Castle ran 40zl and was 5 hours of history, climbing, exhibits and culture.
Dinner right on the riverbank (grilled kolbasa, kraut, fried potatoes and beer) was 32 zl because I split an order of ribs with a friend after eating the grilled kolbasa and the only s--- involved was from the horses used during the faux knights jousting exhibition which we watched while eating.
Had my favorite pierogi ruskie at dinner one evening, my friend had raki (crayfish) for an appetizer and sliced pork in some sort of red mushroom sauce. We also had raviloi appetitzers, two beers, split a milk shake (disappointing) and two after-dinner coffees, all of which ran to 128 zl. I am certain I would have noticed if there had been any s--- nearby.
Lunch on Sunday (late) was again grilled kolbasa (different place, but equally well-done!) with beers, followed by ice cream chasers. Cost was 19 zl including the ice cream. Again, I am pretty sure we would have noticed if there was any s--- around.
Total costs for me were 465 zl if I added correctly.
I also bought a good pair of sneakers for 99zl at a shoe store, a box of 10 bandaids, some Lipton green tea, three disposable razors and.....2 AA batteries for my camera - that came to 22 zl.
All in all, a fantastic, long weekend, mini-vacation.
Oh wait, I bought an Egg McMuffin, hash browns and coffee at the train station which I ate on the train. That was another 17 zl I think.
Life amongst the normal folk........... |
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dragonpiwo
Joined: 04 Mar 2013
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Location: Berlin
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:11 pm Post subject: Sounds nice |
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| Sounds nice. Go easy on the bacon and kielbasa...you'll keel over. |
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007
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Location: Gdansk, Poland
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| Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Nah, if my center of gravity is low enough I'll just plop down......... |
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dynow
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| I also bought a good pair of sneakers for 99zl.... |
no you didn't.
i mean, trying to stay out of your tit for tat here with dragonbucks, but....
what good pair of sneakers can be had for under $30. you either wear a size 17 and they need to get rid of them or they are.....oh i don't know.....'Shnike'. |
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ecocks
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Location: Gdansk, Poland
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You and the horse you came in on, buster.
They're a perfectly normal pair of sneakers and they work fine.
Some idiots pay for the name, I buy shoes that last a couple of years before I wear them out.
Once again, I am reminded how Americans get their crap reputation overseas trying to inflict their preconceptions and assumptions on the rest of the world. After putting a couple of whiny twits (and a Brit or two for that matter) back on planes for home after they found out they couldn't hack it, I realized that despite the lack of some material items, Eastern Europeans deserve some cred for not chucking it in at the mere thought of their lot in life. |
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sparks
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| The Quechua, or however shoes that you can buy at Decathalon are quite alright, they're not running shoes but sneakeresque. They start at 70 zl and go up from there. The higher from 70 you go, the more stylish they get, of course. |
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dragonpiwo
Joined: 04 Mar 2013
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:25 am Post subject: sneakers |
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Sneakers is such an camp word...trainers please. I like New Balance (250Zl), very comfy, good for sport and much cheaper than the rip-off Adidas, Nike and Reeboks, which cost a fortune in Poland.
Ecocks, you got bumped as in Lidl they have Le Coq Sportif for under 60Zl. Made from Chinese radioactive plastic. |
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dragonpiwo
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:28 am Post subject: and Ecocks |
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| Your sentence about twits isn't really very coherent. See the IELTS marking scheme for writing please. |
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007
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Location: Gdansk, Poland
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:35 am Post subject: Re: sneakers |
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| dragonpiwo wrote: |
Sneakers is such an camp word...trainers please. I like New Balance (250Zl), very comfy, good for sport and much cheaper than the rip-off Adidas, Nike and Reeboks, which cost a fortune in Poland.
Ecocks, you got bumped as in Lidl they have Le Coq Sportif for under 60Zl. Made from Chinese radioactive plastic. |
It's hilarious how you guys just can't stand it when other people don't "buy" (literally, in this case) into your games. YOu can only think to jump on the shoes question? These are simple, normal tennis shoes for casual and light sportswear. It's your problem if you don't kow how to shop, not mine. I wish you the best with your shoe of the year or whatever icon you lace up in the morning though.
Tennis shoes, sneakers, whatever. Trainers is what the Brits call em but hey, I'm not a Brit, so I'll call them what I will. You obviously understood what I meant which is pretty telling.
And, if I had wanted plastic shoes I would have gone to Lidl and bought them, these are what I like and that's all that really counts.
Oh, I am just finishing up posting my pics on my FB so check em out under the Malbork album. |
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dynow
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ecocks wrote:
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| It's hilarious how you guys just can't stand it when other people don't "buy" (literally, in this case) into your games. YOu can only think to jump on the shoes question? These are simple, normal tennis shoes for casual and light sportswear. It's your problem if you don't kow how to shop, not mine. I wish you the best with your shoe of the year or whatever icon you lace up in the morning though. |
sorry, it was the only thing i found interesting from your post. i brushed past your boasting about such treasures like bekon, scrambled eggs, and the never ending fountain of coffee. i've already addressed that anyhow.
i know how to shop for shoes just fine. ran 5 miles today, as i've been doing for 12-13 years now....my feet felt fantastic. let me know if you'd like some good recommendations.
yet again, i just don't understand this constant insistence that when an expat leaves, it's because he "couldn't hack it." it's not like i spent 8 weeks there and went running home. i was there 4 years, how many years have you put in so far? |
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007
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Location: Gdansk, Poland
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| dynow wrote: |
ecocks wrote:
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| It's hilarious how you guys just can't stand it when other people don't "buy" (literally, in this case) into your games. YOu can only think to jump on the shoes question? These are simple, normal tennis shoes for casual and light sportswear. It's your problem if you don't kow how to shop, not mine. I wish you the best with your shoe of the year or whatever icon you lace up in the morning though. |
sorry, it was the only thing i found interesting from your post. i brushed past your boasting about such treasures like bekon, scrambled eggs, and the never ending fountain of coffee. i've already addressed that anyhow.
i know how to shop for shoes just fine. ran 5 miles today, as i've been doing for 12-13 years now....my feet felt fantastic. let me know if you'd like some good recommendations.
yet again, i just don't understand this constant insistence that when an expat leaves, it's because he "couldn't hack it." it's not like i spent 8 weeks there and went running home. i was there 4 years, how many years have you put in so far? |
Well, as much as you would like to think that had something to do with you, it was a response to the name brand boasting of another person on the thread.
Poland's my third country and I'm halfway through the fifth year of TEFL and 7 years of living overseas.
And the point, which you just can't seem to grasp, is that these things are typical and easy to obtain here on a teacher's income. Nothing special and you don't have to know anyone. It just takes modest efforts at booking a room and getting out of the apartment. They're posted for the new folk who come through and see the silly posts that TEFL teachers here are stuck eating trash like some would have you believe.
But since you mention boasting, who's the one carrying on about their house, their truck, the road they drive and so on, in some other country on the Poland thread? Might go look in the mirror and ask yourself where your motivation to post here springs from.
Just can't stand that someone posts information that isn't about you but actually describes TEFL lifestyles in Poland, can you?
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ecocks
Joined: 06 Nov 2007
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Location: Gdansk, Poland
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| Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: and Ecocks |
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| dragonpiwo wrote: |
| Your sentence about twits isn't really very coherent. See the IELTS marking scheme for writing please. |
Thanks for the chuckle! Your provision of comic relief lightens things up from time to time.
It's probably just as well you didn't understand it. |
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dynow
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| Poland's my third country and I'm halfway through the fifth year of TEFL and 7 years of living overseas. |
so in other words, you JUST got here.
been a while since i could say "here" on Dave's, been in Poland for two days now, about to slam down some home cookin' and drown myself in the clear stuff. |
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