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Mental illness and teaching ESL
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scepticalbee



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, I don't really know where you put all your "experience"... We can't have any proof of it in here, though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scepticalbee,

Unfortunately for you, I have enough professional experience in the mental health to not be phased by some internet poster throwing out words like "murderous" and "push a poster to suicide".
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santi84



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apologies for engaging the troll. My children are napping and it's raining outside. I should go grab a good book.
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scepticalbee



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, sure, I'm the troll and you're not even if you're the one who's destroying the topic,not me. You could just say "I disagree, because", develop your idea while staying polite but no, you have to be aggressive, and to belittle other posters while seeking support in your online "friends" in here.
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scepticalbee



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've already asked you to ignore my posts if you don't feel like replying to them, honestly I'd really appreciate it. And yes, your harsh and sneering comments could kill someone who's jobless and who's living on the edge. Are you really an experienced Human Being, anyway?
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scepticalbee



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, Heather, I really apologize for these parenthesis for which I'm not responsible at all. I'll keep my advice, though: I think that trying to get better would help you to get a job more easily than trying to find a place where you could legally buy your medication.

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scepticalbee



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a specialist, though, but you should have probably heard about the medication addiction that harms the depressed person more than it really helps her/him. And this is an assertion made by professionals in their various reports, seminaries and books which could easily be found and read by literate people,of course.
I hope that you found my advice helpful.
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HLJHLJ



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and again; bad, incorrect and potentially dangerous advice.
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scepticalbee



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just your opinion, not the whole world's one.
I'm waiting for this topic's author's one, though...
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Teacher in Rome



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the OP: I think that if you're suffering mental illness of any kind (or have a history of it), you need to discuss this with your own medical practitioner before deciding whether or not to go and teach abroad. Naturally, you'd probably not choose to discuss your personal history on an online forum, so there's a limit to specific advice people can give here.

Nevertheless, the advice (particularly on the first page) would seem spot on. Some countries may not give you a work visa if you aren't 100% fit. In other countries, you might find it hard to get the same / equivalent medication. Depending on the severity of your illness, you may also need access to therapies ("talking" or otherwise) and a support network that may not be so easy to find. And of course, the culture shock might also be difficult.

Like others who've offered advice and opinions here, I've seen the effects that mental ill health has. From what I know (admittedly little compared to posters like santi84 who has much more hands-on experience) mental illness takes many forms, lasts different durations of time, and affects people in very different ways. So I'd really urge you to speak to your own medical practitioner who's taken care of you up to now and who knows you best before heading off to a new country where you might not know anyone.

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is being unlocked with the understanding that if it once again degenerates into off-topic, flaming, confrontational and trolling comments, it and the makers of the aforementioned inappropriate comments will cease to exist on this board.

I kid you not.
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demitrescou



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Besides, the brain is a muscle that can be worked out too: if you don't keep thinking about your pain for a while, you'll see it magically disappear someday. Same thing for the depression.


Sceptical, I find such comments truly ridiculous and offensive. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
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HeatherG



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He/she has been banned. Just ignore it.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mental illness can also affect TEFLers when they come back from Shangri-La and are forced to adapt to life back home !
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haleynicole14



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Mental illness and teaching ESL Reply with quote

HeatherG wrote:
How do you cope with depressive episodes or anxiety attacks if you've had them while living and working abroad?


While I've never been officially diagnosed, I have definitely experienced some depressive episodes and anxiety attacks in a few moments of my life. One of these times was when I was teaching in China, and I was very unprepared for it. I really want to teach abroad again, and my thought is to have a few "rules" for myself so I don't fall back into the same situation. These are things like exercise, make friends/acquaintances as soon as possible and make an effort to see them, eat healthy, find or bring supplies for a hobby or past-time, learn and use more of the local language, make plans to go out and see new things and keep those plans. Mostly things that would be advised for any person with depression, anywhere, but worth repeating.

Also, I was trying to save too much money then, and I missed out on things because of that, so I will have a different attitude towards that when trying again. If you have the money to do things you love, like go see movies or eat at nice restaurants, try to do them. I know I tend to get depressed and feel like not doing anything or seeing anyone, and then it has a spiral effect where I don't see anyone or do anything and get more depressed because of it. So this isn't really a post on what worked for me but what didn't work for me (by not doing those things on my list) to keep myself healthy and happy.

You know yourself, and your list might be different from mine, but it could be good to have your own plan or rules based on what you know works for you. It can be lonely living abroad and it's important to find things that make you happy as soon as you can.

And of course, like others have said, talk with your doctor, since none of us know your personal history or are qualified to give actual medical advice.
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