Site Search:
 
Get TEFL Certified & Start Your Adventure Today!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Ok...MLI...Honest Answers!!!!!!!!!!!!
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> United Arab Emirates
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
blues clues



Joined: 28 Jul 2004
Posts: 61

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, GF...did I miss something? or did you????? In any case, I have no time for this, I don't throw insults, just state facts.......if you felt offended by anyting I wrote, then please accept a sincere apology. I just try to be helpful and truthful, not more than that....cheers
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bindair Dundat



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Posts: 1123

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veiledsentiments wrote:
Well blues clues,

Just to come a bit to the rescue of Grand Frommage (not that he probably needs it), but if you go through the massive MLI archive here, you will find that GF was one of the longest holdouts fighting against the MLI critics.



You will also find that his agenda apparently involves driving away applicants so that conditions might improve for *him*, and that he doesn't like to be disagreed with in matters that might affect his comfort so greatly.

le big cheese wrote:
I believe that only by boycotting places that refuse to treat people in an acceptable manner will change come to them-not of their own choice of course. Is my frustration with your attitude sufficiently clear??????????????????????


(Quote from March 27, 2004.)

So how's your *own* personal boycott of the MLI going, Mr. Fromage? Have you torn yourself away from those paychecks yet?

BD
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
grand fromage



Joined: 16 Jun 2003
Posts: 131

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BD, you're too good. You got me. How did you figure me out? Ok, I'll level with you. According to my calculations 22 people have left thanks to my warnings; I also prevented 12 from coming, and I am currently "working" on a few undecided prospects. At this rate, I'll be the only one left and have the place to myself before I retire. Well, I would if you hadn't stumbled on to my little scheme. OK, back to therapy; I have to find a way to deal with my hypocrisy. lol (all the way to the bank) Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Cool Laughing Razz
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
veiledsentiments



Joined: 20 Feb 2003
Posts: 17644
Location: USA

PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, GF,

If you are the last man standing, doesn't that mean you are teaching like really big classes? Must be really difficult learning the student names. Smile

VS
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
grand fromage



Joined: 16 Jun 2003
Posts: 131

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VS, how could you think the info on the official MLI site wouldn't always be honored?! It say something like a maximum of 16 teaching hours and 17 students per class. I put great trust in what the MLI says so I am sure they will turn students away so they don't break their promise to teachers.

I wonder what I'll do when what I am smoking runs out Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
akardm



Joined: 11 May 2003
Posts: 3
Location: Modesto, CA

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:15 am    Post subject: Another MLI Vet Reply with quote

Greetings gentlemen! At least, I suppose you're all gentlemen -- since the MLI is an all-male institution.

Unfortunately, I have nothing substantive to contribute to this discussion, since I was only part of the MLI project from 1998-2000, and I understand many changes have taken place since then. But I would like to interject that, even with all its imperfections, I enjoyed working at the MLI; I enjoyed the hours, the class size, the opportunities for professional development, the various TESOL conventions (and, of course, the T-2-T Convention), as well as the emphasis on educational technology. I continue to regard my short tenure on the Nahayyan Base as very significant to me professionally, and the faculty with which I had the priviledge to be associated as one of the best I have known.

From what I read on this thread, the MLI is being compared to ADU. At the risk of redundancy with other threads, how do ZU and the HCT compare to the MLI at present?

Thanks for your patience.

Yours truly,
Michael Akard
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
veiledsentiments



Joined: 20 Feb 2003
Posts: 17644
Location: USA

PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah Mr Akard,

You taught at MLI back in the good old days. Apparently you didn't even know that they started hiring women!! Shocking, isn't it? In fact last year about half of the new teachers were women. And, although I am one (a woman that is), I don't work there and never have - only have had lots of friends and acquaintances who did and do.

But you asked about ZU and HCT and how they compare. Both of them have expanded with attendant growing pains, but they are still up in the top 3 employers in the Emirates - along with AUS. (though the size of the HCT system guarantees that some branches will be better managed and better to work for) They still have the best pay packages and the best benefits - and neither of them is easy to get a job with. They are able to demand that you have what they want - although exactly what it is that they want is sometimes obscure. Smile (Some of the most outstanding professionals that I have taught with didn't pass their interviews)

I think it is a bit unfair to compare MLI to ADU. The last year at MLI was messy and difficult for some of the staff, but at no time did it descend to ADU level.

VS
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sundevil



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Posts: 7
Location: world

PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 12:02 am    Post subject: Top Three Reply with quote

VS,

You didn�t mention UGRU in your top three UAE employer�? A mere oversight? I as well thought that the salary package and prevailing working conditions at AUS didn�t really qualify it to be in the top tier of UAE teaching opportunities.

Just wondering����..

Cheers
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
veiledsentiments



Joined: 20 Feb 2003
Posts: 17644
Location: USA

PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sundevil

Of course, it is opinion. It was not a ranking of who pays the highest salary because I don't find that the most important factor. But I would still put AUS at the top (perhaps because I am American and prefer teaching under an American style system). Not to mention that everyone I have had contact with was very happy with working there and I don't recall one complaint on here about them. Of course, they have a new director this year, so watch this space. Their salary scale is near the top. HCT and ZU are very similar as to their pay - and it is the best package, but they differ in style. So, I would give them about a tie.

Next I would put UAEU, so I would put them at number 4 personally. Although they have cleaned up their act in the last few years, finally got their pay package organized so that you could find two people getting the same salary, and most of the new people are content, there are still many that prefer not to live in the hinterlands of Al-Ain. As I understand, their salary is lower than the others. (unless they have upped their scale)

But, as I said, it is opinion and depends on individual taste and goals. I highly recommend all 4 of them as long as people go into them knowing the pros and cons of each.

VS
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
High Plains Drifter



Joined: 27 Jul 2004
Posts: 127
Location: Way Out There

PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AUS? Could you tell us what AUS stands for?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Stephen Jones



Joined: 21 Feb 2003
Posts: 4124

PostPosted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AUS = American University of Sharjah
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> United Arab Emirates All times are GMT
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3
Page 3 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Teaching Jobs in China
Teaching Jobs in China