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buravirgil
Joined: 23 Jan 2014 Posts: 967 Location: Jiangxi Province, China
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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| So what if a person has lived in China for 10 years? WHY would the Chinese govt still want a criminal check? |
Because bureaucracies prefer blanket rules/restrictions to flexibility and exception handling.
The US has, for some time, become an "extractive" democracy.
Ferguson and the Criminalization of America
link goes to Gawker.com |
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asiannationmc
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| depends on where in china they be and where in china they be going |
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LarssonCrew
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| So glad bura managed to link the USA in and have a quick dig. |
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buravirgil
Joined: 23 Jan 2014 Posts: 967 Location: Jiangxi Province, China
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:39 am Post subject: |
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| LarssonCrew wrote: |
| So glad bura managed to link the USA in and have a quick dig. |
Sarcasm. How unique.
I was affirming what
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| The USA is a lock em up and throw away the key country these days. |
So, that would be an affirming response to another poster, not a link and a dig.
Unlike your contribution. |
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Captain Willard
Joined: 11 Sep 2010 Posts: 251
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for this cite. It is quite insightful regarding the criminalization of things that should, at best, be civil matters. Looking at the records at Ellis Island, immigrants to the U.S. 100 years ago were asked only if they were bigamists or anarchists. Europe's criminals were welcomed to America however. Today, American citizens who had some brush with the law, however minor, too frequently cannot get their records expunged. This limits their ability to work and travel abroad.
Should potential employers really have a right to know if someone spent the night in the drunk tank or got into a loud argument with a girlfriend in a parking lot at 18? Information about felonies, violence against others, and theft is quite relevant, but other matters should be closed and expunged as a matter of course. The FBI report is far too broad.
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| So what if a person has lived in China for 10 years? WHY would the Chinese govt still want a criminal check? |
Because bureaucracies prefer blanket rules/restrictions to flexibility and exception handling.
The US has, for some time, become an "extractive" democracy.
Ferguson and the Criminalization of America
link goes to Gawker.com |
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hdeth
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 3:16 am Post subject: |
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I've never heard of immigration in China wanting an FBI check. Might be your potential employer is going a bit overboard. A notarized state check should suffice, even in Beijing.
I've had to jump through a lot of hoops to get my residence permit moved to Beijing, but no FBI checks required as of yet...maybe that will be the next thing they pop on me.... |
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Quite
Joined: 25 Mar 2015 Posts: 30
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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:21 am Post subject: |
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| My former roomie lived in China for four years and before China, taught in Dubai. He ran into the same problem. He ended up having to lie and say he worked in Korea for last 8 years and he got a police certificate from Korea in less than a week. They are making things so difficult for people to work here I think they will have a foreign teacher crisis on there hands shortly. |
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Trebek

Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 401 Location: China
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:49 am Post subject: Denyed jobs due to blemish on criminal background record. |
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So I got the criminal background check, there was a "Public Intoxication" charge from 1982.
Now I can't work in Yunnan or Zhejiang provinces. Two jobs hired me but then couldnt get my CBC past the Government FAO.
WTF? |
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Son of Bud Powell

Joined: 04 Mar 2015 Posts: 179 Location: Since 2003
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Denyed jobs due to blemish on criminal background record |
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| Trebek wrote: |
So I got the criminal background check, there was a "Public Intoxication" charge from 1982.
Now I can't work in Yunnan or Zhejiang provinces. Two jobs hired me but then couldnt get my CBC past the Government FAO.
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In the States there are DUI lawyers who specialize in expunging such records. I can't remember where you're from, but you might want to look into such a lawyer in your home country. |
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bestteacher2012
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 160
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: Denyed jobs due to blemish on criminal background record |
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| Son of Bud Powell wrote: |
| Trebek wrote: |
So I got the criminal background check, there was a "Public Intoxication" charge from 1982.
Now I can't work in Yunnan or Zhejiang provinces. Two jobs hired me but then couldnt get my CBC past the Government FAO.
WTF? |
In the States there are DUI lawyers who specialize in expunging such records. I can't remember where you're from, but you might want to look into such a lawyer in your home country. |
All for 5000 - 6000rmb a month? |
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zacharybilton
Joined: 23 Apr 2015 Posts: 118
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| Isn't that great part - people with clear criminal history's who dashed off to China to find work and then the laws changed and now they want to get into the legal system to pay lawyers, talking expunging, and whatever else, all to live in China and earn money well under US Poverty numbers. I know American life is horrible these days, but come on. By the way, what does Target pay these days? |
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TrampledKlown
Joined: 22 Sep 2012 Posts: 44
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 3:36 am Post subject: Re: Denied jobs due to blemish on criminal background record |
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| Trebek wrote: |
So I got the criminal background check, there was a "Public Intoxication" charge from 1982.
Now I can't work in Yunnan or Zhejiang provinces. Two jobs hired me but then couldnt get my CBC past the Government FAO.
WTF? |
So what's your next move?
Going Rogue? |
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wangdaning
Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154
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Posted: Sat May 09, 2015 5:14 am Post subject: |
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Your record there is older than me. It was probably something stupid, but now you are made to pay for it. I think trying for other provinces might work.
So odd though, I doubt a Chinese FAO office even knows what counts as public intoxication in the US. |
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