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spiral78



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the OP and I can be 'North Americans' if anyone asks:-)
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GF



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@OP. Don't pay attention to what Gamajorba says. He just has a large chip on his shoulder. I am an American and I have been working in the EU (Estonia) for 11 years now with no problems. And no, I am not married to a local.
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Dedicated



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GF,

Were you employed before or after Estonia joined the EU in 2004/
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GF



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After. I started my first job here in August 2004.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite chips on shoulders, working even in the eastern reaches of the EU may be like living on borrowed time. Unless very special circumstances apply.

Of course, it might be all academic if the wayward Baltics are taken back under the Motherland's wing...
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Gamajorba



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GF wrote:
@OP. Don't pay attention to what Gamajorba says. He just has a large chip on his shoulder. I am an American and I have been working in the EU (Estonia) for 11 years now with no problems. And no, I am not married to a local.


No offence, but I wouldn't even want to work in the US anyway, and besides, I have all the freedom of the EU as an EU citizen anyway, plus 2 of the most powerful passports in the world, so how could I possbily have a chip in the shoulder?
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GF



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gamajorba wrote:
GF wrote:
@OP. Don't pay attention to what Gamajorba says. He just has a large chip on his shoulder. I am an American and I have been working in the EU (Estonia) for 11 years now with no problems. And no, I am not married to a local.


No offence, but I wouldn't even want to work in the US anyway, and besides, I have all the freedom of the EU as an EU citizen anyway, plus 2 of the most powerful passports in the world, so how could I possbily have a chip in the shoulder?


Your previous comments about Americans working in the EU gave it away. Regarding passports, my American one was actually an advantage of sorts. Americans don't fall under the quota limit for immigrants here, so it was rather easy for me to find work.


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GF



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
working even in the eastern reaches of the EU may be like living on borrowed time. Unless very special circumstances apply.


What do you mean?
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Sigma



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been working in the Czech Republic since 2007, and I only have a Canadian passport. I know other teachers from non-EU European countries who teach in the Czech Republic as well. They are from Bosnia & Herzegovina, Belarus, Macedonia, USA, and Canada. They were all hired after the Czech Republic entered the EU. To be fair, almost all of them have CPE and a teaching degree.

With that being said, it is obviously easier for an employeer to hire someone from the EU, but non-EU people are still finding jobs.

I am also not married to a local.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GF wrote:
Sashadroogie wrote:
working even in the eastern reaches of the EU may be like living on borrowed time. Unless very special circumstances apply.


What do you mean?


I mean all of the EU is eventually going to have to follow the same immigration rules, like it or not. For now, the east is still open to non-EU citizens. But that will change down the line....
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GF



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sashadroogie wrote:
GF wrote:
Sashadroogie wrote:
working even in the eastern reaches of the EU may be like living on borrowed time. Unless very special circumstances apply.


What do you mean?


I mean all of the EU is eventually going to have to follow the same immigration rules, like it or not. For now, the east is still open to non-EU citizens. But that will change down the line....


That might happen but I doubt it as countries have been putting up more resistance lately to issues that are dear to them. Estonia has had a good relationship with the US for a long time now and they won't do anything to mess that up. In any case, my wife and children have permanent residency status and I am working on it myself, so no worries there.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll be fine then, by the sounds of that.

But good relations with the US, or any other country for that matter, will not be any sort of argument if Estonia wants closer integration with the rest of the EU. Labour laws are supposed to be 'harmonised' across the union.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I've got an offer to do an interview via Skype with a school in Turkey (Bati Dilleri, headlined Western Languages Center in the email).

Does anybody here have experiences in Turkey?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tommyp32 wrote:
So I've got an offer to do an interview via Skype with a school in Turkey (Bati Dilleri, headlined Western Languages Center in the email).

Does anybody here have experiences in Turkey?


One of my colleagues in the UK lives out in Istanbul, and absolutely loves it there.
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AGoodStory



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tommyp32 wrote:
So I've got an offer to do an interview via Skype with a school in Turkey (Bati Dilleri, headlined Western Languages Center in the email).

Does anybody here have experiences in Turkey?


Tommy, if you haven't done so by now, you'll want to check out the Turkey subforum. All kinds of answers, advice, info, and opinions to be found there! Most likely someone on the Turkey board will know the school you are interviewing with. Good luck with the interview!

AGS
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