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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:39 am Post subject: |
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| I'll tell you all again - there is NO FUN in the KSA, and no alcohol either. |
Your argument isn't new, Tony. Besides, your definition of fun isn't universal. |
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hash
Joined: 17 Dec 2014 Posts: 456 Location: Wadi Jinn
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| tony87 wrote: |
| I'll tell you all again - .........and no alcohol either. |
Cultural SideBar:
1. Lest we forget, remember that the word “alcohol” is a direct descendant of the Arabic term “Al-Kohl” which meant something different than what our modern term does but was nevertheless involved with “intoxicating” effects of one sort or another. (Some argue the term goes back to Ancient Greek and the origins of "alchemy").
2. In any case, the “bacchic theme” has a long (since 6th cent.), proud and outstanding literary history in Arabic belles lettres, most famously exemplified in the incomparable “Khamriyyaat” (wine songs). The literature in the European languages is extensive. In Arabic such titles as (“The Acme of Joy in Praise of Wine” – 11th cent.) abounded.
“Classical Arab civilization produced the most extensive and highly developed bacchic tradition in world literature.” (and, except among specialists, I might add, a tradition totally unknown in the West.).
from: http://searchworks.stanford.edu/view/3772787
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| Distilled liquor is of course a fairly modern invention by Arab Alchemists. The ancients knew only beer, mead and wine. |
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tony87
Joined: 21 Jul 2015 Posts: 43
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:40 am Post subject: |
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But you can't get any kind of liquor in Saudi Arabia. The religious police and retarded laws see to that.
There is NO fun in Saudi. |
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CANDLES

Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Posts: 605 Location: Wandering aimlessly.....
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:02 am Post subject: |
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Last time I was there it was awful, starting from the brain dead passport control officers to the actual place of work.
The immigraton people are just VILE.... if you can get through that and past that, then the culture shock is a little less daunting. First impression is not good. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:45 am Post subject: |
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That's right. After all, alcohol is prohibited in Saudi, just as it was in the USA in the 20s.
And, as we all know, in the USA in the Roaring 20s, there was absolutely no alcohol and NO fun.
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John |
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CANDLES

Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Posts: 605 Location: Wandering aimlessly.....
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:51 am Post subject: |
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I have never understood why alcohol is equated with 'fun'. Does that mean that people who are teetotallers are bland, boring and the rest of it?
Oh well.... |
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scot47

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| There is life without alcohol. Fun can be had without getting drunk. If you need it, contacting a bootlegger should be relatively easy, unless you are in Qassim or Sharura. |
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CANDLES

Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Posts: 605 Location: Wandering aimlessly.....
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Or compounds where home-brewed disgusting stuff is available, plus hard liquor! |
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bigdurian
Joined: 05 Feb 2014 Posts: 401 Location: Flashing my lights right behind you!
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Personally speaking, I like my booze. I make it myself to my own standards.
Mead is probably my favourite, gone off wine a bit because there is only so much you can do with it. Mead is something else though, so many varieties and flavours. It can be 5% or 25%, sweet or dry. Mixed with fruit, spices, you name it. I've done it with strawberry, peach, white grape, red grape, plum, nothing, apple, dates, and may other things. To anyone interested, they do a 3kg jar of Sary 100% in Lulu for 45 SAR you can get at least 10 litres out of that probably.
Mead brewed with dates is fantastic, a real winter warmer!
Plus there is no need to add any sugar because it's all in the honey anyway. The oldest known drink known to man: "Drink of the Gods"
I've also been more than happy with my beer and cider results. Apart from the drinking of it, it's a great hobby. Always satisfying when a bottle opens with the sound of a champagne cork popping due to the pressure.
Many people I know probably end up drinking more in Saudi, due to expat social scene, cheapness, etc. |
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2buckets
Joined: 14 Dec 2010 Posts: 515 Location: Middle East
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Sid Deeki is my friend. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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I knew teachers who BECAME alcoholics in Saudi, teachers who continued as alcoholics there, and people who became teetotalers there.
In one unique case, all three were the same person.
Regards,
John |
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CANDLES

Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Posts: 605 Location: Wandering aimlessly.....
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Isn't LIFE grand!  |
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scot47

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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| I lived in KSA as a drunk and I lived there after getting sober. I know which was better ! |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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True, if you think Saudi is bad when you're sober, try it with hangovers.
Regards,
John |
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