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veiledsentiments
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Never once since this board appeared in 1996 have I suggested that I had been in Saudi. Those that care can check profiles. Which is why I only give general advice or pass on stuff that people send me in PMs because they are afraid of either their employers identifying them or coping with the nasties here on the board.
There is a great need for reading comprehension training for way too many hereabouts... considering that they are language teachers. Someone who could read would know that I gave no advice but the obvious here (both contractors suck)... mainly tried to get posters to focus and actually make clear their questions and the answers.
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:20 pm Post subject: Princess Nourah bint Abdulrahman University (PNU) |
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| PNU is listed for TESOL Arabia for what appears to be direct-hire opportunities. If that's the case, they may be limiting the number of companies they usually work with. However, that's no guarantee that pay and benefits are better and conditions are peachy given PNU's history. |
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cnthaiksarok
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Does PNU have any relation to KFPMU, KFUPM or PMU?
~just kidding |
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scot47
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| Well, it was named after a member of the ruling family. That means they are related I suppose. Is the campus railway system still functioning at PNU ? That intrigued me when I first heard about. No chance of going trainspotting there ! |
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siologen
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 7:57 am Post subject: re: correct! |
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| People who spent time in KSA, but who no longer live there, love to pass themselves off as experts, when the truth is that no one can really say what is really happening at a place from one day to the next. |
You are dead right. I for one would much rather hear from people who are there. And just as worse, or perhaps even more worse, are FT's based in East Asia, who have never taught in the middle east who consider themselves an expert or feel they should chip in, when they have never taught in the KSA/The Gulf, and most likely have no intention of ever doing so. Reminds me of a post someone based in South Korea posted, something along the lines of this, IIRC: "I have no interest in teaching in an absolute monarchy or an islamic theocracy!".
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| siologen wrote: |
| I for one would much rather hear from people who are there. |
As a male job seeker, what specifically do you want to know about working at this women's university? |
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scot47
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| I must confess that I have not taught at a woman's university in KSA. I have visited campuses where women ar4e taught though, and I spent 17 years working and sweating in the country. I wish I could have those 17 years back now. |
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cnthaiksarok
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| scot47 wrote: |
| I wish I could have those 17 years back now. |
I've discussed the notion with Father time and he said to deposit your savings in cnthaiksarok's account and he'll look into the 17 years.  |
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danshengou
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| I must confess that I have not taught at a woman's university in KSA. I have visited campuses where women ar4e taught though, and I spent 17 years working and sweating in the country. I wish I could have those 17 years back now. |
And what would you different with those 17 years? In return for 17 years of your life, you got some cash. Anything else more important? Just more cash. Without it, you're dead. And without health, you're dead. So it's a catch 22. Bank and retire. That's it. If you're able to do that on one income in TEFL, you are one of the few. Enjoy, you earned it! |
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nomad soul
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Back to the subject of Princess Nourah U...
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| Do any of the women require a bit of out of hours tuition on a one on one basis? |
Odd question. Female prep year students are no different from their male counterparts. Regardless of which university they attend, EFL students might seek additional outside help on their own. But that's what office hours and computer language labs are for. |
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siologen
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| Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:21 pm Post subject: re: to each their own? |
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| And what would you different with those 17 years? |
That is the good thing about EFL, some view the cash and "bank and retire" as the most important, others would rather maximise free time and enjoy the more relaxed hours compared with teaching in the West. As for what the OP would have done different with those 17 years, well that is up to him surely, to each their own! |
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AmericanAmina
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I have a friend in Saudi who used to work at PNU and still has connections there. She was hired through a contractor, and she advises that you only go direct hire. Skip all contractors. PNU, as mentioned above, is hiring through the TESOL Arabia 2017 conference this week. Their direct contact info is on the job fair page for that website, and my friend gave me another direct email address for applying if anyone wants to PM me. I would just post it here, but I don't know if that's allowed. She said the housing you get is really nice and they'll contribute toward the cost of your kids' school fees.
She said that if you don't quite meet the requirements, for years of teaching experience for example, wait and apply in August when they are usually desperately trying to fill the last few spots. At that point they suddenly become more flexible about who they can hire. |
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nomad soul
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Thanks for the info, AmericanAmina.
BTW, will you be attending TESOL Arabia later this week? If so, please let us know how it went. |
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AmericanAmina
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| Yes, I'll be there. I'll give you my impressions of it afterwards. I haven't been before, and if I weren't already living right here I don't know if I would have gone for it. I hope the conference will be nice, but I'm mostly interested in the job fair. As of last week there were only 8 employers registered. Today they're up to 18, but a few look like repeats. There are employers booked from Morocco and Oman both, so that was enough to get me there. |
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veiledsentiments
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I was surprised at how few employers were signed up...
Only 18... and 6 of those are British Council, 3 are BAE.
And one is China.
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