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RiverMystic



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
But in all my time in teaching abroad I am yet to encounter a teacher who cannot be understood purely because of nationality or accent.

Maybe they were cut at the phone interview and never made it to China?


Like I said, Steve Irwin never made the cut.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve never did get a fair suck of the sav did he?
By the time I left China after my first term (2005) I thought I had neutralised my accent.
When I went back in 2010 I asked the FAO during the phone interview 'How's my accent?'
He said; 'You have no accent'.
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
But in all my time in teaching abroad I am yet to encounter a teacher who cannot be understood purely because of nationality or accent.

Maybe they were cut at the phone interview and never made it to China?


I met one Australian whom I could not understand for the life of me unless we had a few beers. Nobody else mentioned his dialect. I think the beer made it difficult for him to keep up the impenetrable outback lingo.
When he cut out the dialect, he was among the funniest people I've ever met.
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Voyeur



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is that true international schools require one to have a valid teaching license in a western country.

Then again, most "international" schools aren't true international schools.
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JoThomas



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^Voyeur: Yes, most accredited international schools require you have a teaching qualification from your home country.

I work at an international school and work with Filipinos, Greeks, Irish, Scots and Brits that seem to get by with their accent.
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kazpat



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of years ago we had an English teaching staff the included an American, Brit, Canadian, Kiwi and a South African along with locals. Our subject teachers came from several other different countries. Then when our whole 12th grade took the IELTS one of the examiners was Australian. The kids said they couldn't understand him.
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XiaoWren



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:29 am    Post subject: Re: Job Opportunities in China Reply with quote

johnfriendly wrote:
Hello all,

I am interested in relocating to China this August/September and am seeking advice on jobs to apply for based on my experience. Ideally I would like to teach in a university.

I am in my late 20s and am an Irish citizen. I have a BA in History, a CELTA and an MA in TESOL. I have 5 years experience teaching in an international school in Dubai. I completed my MA on campus in a major Irish university and graduated last summer. Since then I have been teaching EAP in the same university. This June I will have one year post MA TESOL University experience.

Which jobs should I be seeking based on my experience?

Thanks in advance!


Top tier international schools usually require a teaching licence (e.g. UK: BEd or PGCE), however this requirement is not set in stone, and international schools lower in the pecking order will be more flexible about it. Your choice may depend on whether you wanna teach kids and which subject.

Your other best option is joint operation universities (i.e. UK-Sino partnerships), see Nottingham Ningbo for example.

Not sure if British Council hire Irish (are your from Ulster?).

Otherwise, you might wanna think about getting 'down and dirty' with any of the chain schools if you are thinking of moving away from teaching (the coal face) and into management or business operations.
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JoThomas



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:02 am    Post subject: Re: Job Opportunities in China Reply with quote

johnfriendly wrote:
Hello all,

I am interested in relocating to China this August/September and am seeking advice on jobs to apply for based on my experience. Ideally I would like to teach in a university.

I am in my late 20s and am an Irish citizen. I have a BA in History, a CELTA and an MA in TESOL. I have 5 years experience teaching in an international school in Dubai. I completed my MA on campus in a major Irish university and graduated last summer. Since then I have been teaching EAP in the same university. This June I will have one year post MA TESOL University experience.

Which jobs should I be seeking based on my experience?

Thanks in advance!


Based on your 5 years teaching in an international school in Dubai, I'd say stay in that field. There are many websites online you can look for international schools in China. You could easily get into a university, but the pay and hours are lower. It depends on what your goals are. I'd google all the universities in the city you may be interested in and then check their websites or send them your resume. There are many good universities that hire English teachers here in Beijing and in Shanghai. Good luck!
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JB140767



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:


There's nothing racist or stereotypifying about stating the customer* comes first.
*aka 'student'.


That is absolutely true but it doesn't tally with what you said - you singled out Irish and Scottish - not everyone with strong accents, you specifically mention and target these groups. Thay is grade A racism
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bigdurian



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Met a guy from Boston in Laos one time who said he was teaching in China. I couldn't understand a word he was saying, which is unusual, because I normally find septics easy in the ear.

I also worked with a guy from Stoke who took a lot of getting used to.

But the guy from Boston was another level entirely.........
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danshengou



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JB140767 wrote:
Non Sequitur wrote:


There's nothing racist or stereotypifying about stating the customer* comes first.
*aka 'student'.


That is absolutely true but it doesn't tally with what you said - you singled out Irish and Scottish - not everyone with strong accents, you specifically mention and target these groups. Thay is grade A racism


I think he was using these groups mainly as an example, but it doesn't mean they are the only groups of TEFLers with tricky accents.
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