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guest of Japan
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Bindair Dundat
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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| zaneth wrote: |
Caveats of course, but I get irritated when people say it's the same as astrology. |
It's not the same as astrology, but it's almost as useless. The constructs on which the test are based (innie-outie, whatever) are no longer generally recognized as valid discriminators, nor is the typology considered representative of significant personality dimensions. Current views favor the "big five" personality factors (do Google it up, but don't rely on the online tests).
Another problem with the M-B is that, as Frijolita suggested, the results vary depending on when you take the test, etc. Not good. Of course, most people don't even take the M-B, but instead take some sort of amateur online test that supposedly mimics the M-B, in a sorta-almost-kinda way...
With astrology, the results are fairly consistent each time you get your chart done. 
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traveller
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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In regard to astrology:
(Shrug) I find M-B useful and interesting - but if your mileage varies, no big deal. There shouldn't be any dogma in regard to personality tests, after all!
I am fairly unimpressed with claims of authority in regard to psychology (or in regard to the soft sciences in general): they've been collectively, ludicrously wrong before, and will be again. I suspect that as a group, they are only a little above, say, economists, when it comes to the abject failure of their predictions and theories when applied to real life.
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Your Type is
INTJ
Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging
Strength of the preferences %
89 67 78 89
You are:
* very expressed introvert
* distinctively expressed intuitive personality
* very expressed thinking personality
* very expressed judging personality |
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struelle
Joined: 16 May 2003
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Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2004 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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As someone who's passionate (shall we say obsessed) with travel, I fit the ISFP 'travel type' very well, but that's based on the description rather than taking the actual test. This may be a problem with MBTI, that you can read type descriptions and find yourself identifying with nearly every one of them. I find when I read those descriptions, that's exactly what happens.
You could argue that the description that fits you best is your 'type', but that's not actually taking the test.
But when I take the test, the description that comes out isn't the one I identify with most. Weird eh?
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traveller
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2004 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| struelle wrote: |
As someone who's passionate (shall we say obsessed) with travel, I fit the ISFP 'travel type' very well, but that's based on the description rather than taking the actual test. This may be a problem with MBTI, that you can read type descriptions and find yourself identifying with nearly every one of them. I find when I read those descriptions, that's exactly what happens.
You could argue that the description that fits you best is your 'type', but that's not actually taking the test.
But when I take the test, the description that comes out isn't the one I identify with most. Weird eh?
Steve |
Well, Steve, your experience is a good reason why we shouldn't take M-B too dogmatically - as if it was a science. It isn't: but using the hard science paradigm is simply incorrect when applied to human personality. (AKA: " The wrong tool for the job.")
Perhaps you shoud take the descriptions as your type, instead of the test itself. Or consider why your 'gut feeling' and the test doesn't match: are you identifying with a type that just isn't you? Depending on your type, you may have the tendency to closely identify with 'interesting' folk, instead of just focusing on your own distinct personality.
(As an INTJ, the M-B predicts that I would sharply identify only with INTJ. True enough: I simply don't fit in the other categories.)
If you want the 'real deal' M-B, and/or you want to get more involved in your type, then you should talk to an expert. But, I certainly won't hold it against you if you choose not to pay the hefty 'expert' fee.
A better route is to discuss yourtype with other interested parties, and see if they agree with you. An online test is no substitute for the 'empirical reality check' only other people can provide. |
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Mediator
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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SWF, 33, red/blue, proportional.... oh wait.
The last time I took the Myers-Briggs, I was practically even between I and E, P and J, and T and F. I am an N, however. So, that means I'm either fairly balanced or non-commital. |
I would say that you are very balanced. Good for you. I have been studying MBTI, and type in general, for five years. Whenever I think I have my type figured, it changes. |
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moonraven
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| Let's not forget the basic reality here: in order to take a test like this and have the results be even remotely trustworthy, you need to know yourself pretty well, and answer regarding how you ARE, not how you'd like to be--or how you'd like others to see you. |
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desultude
Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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Your Type is
INTP
Introverted Intuitive Thinking Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
33 78 11 11
Qualitative analysis of your type formula
You are:
moderately expressed introvert
very expressed intuitive personality
slightly expressed thinking personality
slightly expressed perceiving personality |
I read the analysis, and it's a pretty good fit.
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moonraven
Let's not forget the basic reality here: in order to take a test like this and have the results be even remotely trustworthy, you need to know yourself pretty well, and answer regarding how you ARE, not how you'd like to be--or how you'd like others to see you.
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This is so true. And I find that in many ways I am just getting to know myself better. I think it's a benefit of age and living abroad. |
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Sadken
Joined: 11 Aug 2004
Posts: 341
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Your Type is
ENFP
Extroverted Intuitive Feeling Perceiving
Strength of the preferences %
11 33 44 11
You are:
slightly expressed extrovert
moderately expressed intuitive personality
moderately expressed feeling personality
slightly expressed perceiving personality
Does this mean I am crazy? |
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moonraven
Joined: 24 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| If you have to ask...you probably are. But your profile doesn't show that. You should be able to fool some of the people some of the time. |
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Ace
Joined: 16 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 6:00 pm Post subject: What? |
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EIFP...ok, but 1, 33, 22, 11
Me, an Aquarian...1 for extrovert? I'm bl**dy extroverted as anyone will tell you...
I was playing the piano, very poorly in a 'Coffe Shop' (very expensive restaurant, almost empty) on Sunday night at my host's insistent urging...then I drank beer and played cai mei with his friends in the karaoke club (oh god, and sang...) and at the disco after that...well!
What about the Luscher colour test? |
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moonraven
Joined: 24 Mar 2004
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| There is a difference between an extrovert and an exhibitionist. |
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Polina
Joined: 04 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:51 pm Post subject: INTJ |
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I'm an INTJ and I've found the discovery of Myers-Briggs was an absolute life-saver in explaining why other people and I find each other so ... well ... alien. It accurately explains the "what" and the "why" of incredibly many facets of my personality and has helped me to understand why what I want in life is so different from what has been expected of me by others and why I have no inner compulsion to carry that out.
Repeating details is something I am supposed to hate.
I am not supposed to enjoy non-genuine social interactions and niceties.
I am not supposed to enjoy jobs where I have to focus on pleasing others.
I am supposed to have little patience for incompetence.
Ohhh ... that explains why Teaching English to Chinese makes me feel almost like I am dying ... 
Now I know for sure that I HAVE TO find a new occupation. Very useful. (By the way, I am braindead as I write this, and my shadow ESFP side could be coming out.  ) |
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