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biffinbridge
Joined: 05 May 2003 Posts: 701 Location: Frank's Wild Years
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 9:32 am Post subject: real teaching |
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| To be a real teacher you have to be in the real world.That counts out just about everyone teaching in the Middle Eastern space time continuum. |
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waxwing
Joined: 29 Jun 2003 Posts: 719 Location: China
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sp. 'won'.
The rest woz gud. |
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Lanza-Armonia

Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 525 Location: London, UK. Soon to be in Hamburg, Germany
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:23 am Post subject: |
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No but the Chinese schools want a white face and I want to travel. Guan Xi
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Hondo 2.0
Joined: 05 Aug 2004 Posts: 69 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 1:13 am Post subject: |
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| In Ontario, a teacher is defined as a member in good standing with the Ontario College of Teachers. There are legal obligations associated with being a teacher. These obligations extend beyond the classroom into the teacher's personal life. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 2021 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 2:03 am Post subject: |
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| Hondo 2.0 wrote: |
| In Ontario, a teacher is defined as a member in good standing with the Ontario College of Teachers. |
And therefore in Ontario, neither university nor college teachers are real teachers. Nor is anyone who is a member of TESL ON (The "T" part is a lie!) |
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Hondo 2.0
Joined: 05 Aug 2004 Posts: 69 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 2:50 am Post subject: |
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| That is just according to the Ontario College of Teachers Act. I've never seen anyone at unversity using the title "teacher". Everyone seems to be some sort of a professor or an instructor. |
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GambateBingBangBOOM
Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 2021 Location: Japan
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:48 am Post subject: |
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Most people don't use the title "teacher". They go by their first name, sometimes even the Profs. If you ask them "What do you do?" the answer as many times as not is "I'm a teacher." or "I teach Xsubject".
According to TESL Ontario's website, http://www.teslontario.org/new/cert/cert_ontcert.htm
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"...we must convince the funding organizations and service providers that qualifications are important, and that better-trained teachers offer better language courses.
Robert Courch�ne
An excerpt from the Spring 2000 issue of TESL Ontario's CONTACT" |
in the area concerned with Certification for TESL .
BTW a B.Ed will not get you certified with TESL Ontario, and since they are the governing body for teachers of ESL in Ontario, that would suggest that a B.Ed only trained ESL Teacher is not a 'real' ESL teacher because they are not certified as such, which of course is ridiculous. |
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Hondo 2.0
Joined: 05 Aug 2004 Posts: 69 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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I can honestly say that my training with either NOVA or GEOS did more to prepare me for teaching ESL than the B.Ed. During my B.Ed., there were only a few discussion about accomodating ESL learners in the mainstream classroom. To teach ESL in a public school, one must take additional qualifications courses. I think the prevalent idea is that a regular classroom teacher need only be able to accomodate ESL students. Actually teaching is left ot the specialists.
I think a teacher needs to demonstrate mastery over their subject material, excellent communication ability, patience, and professionalism. If you are in a class with students, and you have these characteristics, then I think you sould consider yourself a "teacher". |
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