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Paying for your mistakes (literally)
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stillnosheep



Joined: 01 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ps. Correct is: "The staff at those two schools ..."

In this case there is no need to use the (much more difficult to get right) "staffs". We reserve that for when we refer to differing staff; not for when we are merely referring to multiple instances of (for practical purposes) identical staff.

Go back to school. If you can't speak the language don't try to teach it.

ps. You accuse me of being a cop again and your brains get spladdered.

Geddit.
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taikibansei



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Posts: 811
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL. Are you STILL whining on about this?

"stillnosheep" writes:

"In this case there is no need to use the (much more difficult to get right) 'staffs'...."

This thread took the dire turn it did when you and your buds started arguing that the plural of "staff" was "staves" (oh, and "only referred to sticks"). Now, after having changed your story (and misquoted me) about 8-9 times, you're a grammar expert?! Laughing

"ps. You accuse me of being a cop again and your brains get spladdered."

LOL. What is with you 'grammar' cops, anyway? Too lazy to learn either Japanese or English, so instead you hang out here, waiting for typos (real or imagined) to jump on? Quite the life!
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Zzonkmiles



Joined: 05 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel sorry for the original poster of this thread. A discussion about spelling and semantics generated more replies than her actual problem did.

Anyway, what does your contract say about the penalties associated with being late? Is this a new policy? If you were informed about this during the interview, I'm not sure you have a leg to stand on (unless it specifically violates Japanese labor law, and even then...) because you know what the rules were. The fact that the policy is not equally enforced is a legitimate gripe. Does the General Union have a branch where you live? Perhaps they can give you some advice? Sorry if this advice is not helpful, but it is sincere.
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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan

PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zzonkmiles wrote:
Anyway, what does your contract say about the penalties associated with being late? Is this a new policy? If you were informed about this during the interview, I'm not sure you have a leg to stand on (unless it specifically violates Japanese labor law, and even then...) because you know what the rules were. The fact that the policy is not equally enforced is a legitimate gripe. Does the General Union have a branch where you live? Perhaps they can give you some advice? Sorry if this advice is not helpful, but it is sincere.


Zzonk

Im not sure if you belong to the union or not but the only physical location the G.U is the union office in Temmabashi. The 'branches' are simply made up of members who belong to each group e.g. conversation school/NOVA teachers, high school and university branches. there is no physical place they can go to except H.O. IF he is not in Kansai he should go to the website at http://www.generalunion.org and click on the area that he lives in and contact the union in his region.

The union also is not a free advisory service for foreigners who get into trouble but acts on behalf of its financial members. The committee member I have spoken to advises me against referring people for advice unless they actually join the union and think about forming a chapter in their companies. they dont want to help people who won't help themselves. G.U membership fees are 3,000 yen a month or 36,000 yen a year or less that 1% of an annual NOVA salary.
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AsiaTraveller



Joined: 24 May 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sns,

I'm just pointing out the difference between British usage and American usage.

Americans use the terms 'faculty' and 'staff' in similar fashion. Americans simply wouldn't say 'three faculty'. They'd say 'three faculty members'. And they'd also refer to 'faculties' at two schools.

Why is it so difficult for you to accept more than one type of usage? I'm not really sure why you've resorted to name-calling here when I've only cited examples of alternative (i.e., American) English usage.

Did I get your knickers in a twist on another thread??? Rolling Eyes If so, I promise to be more gentle with your delicate feelings next time.
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