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burnsie



Joined: 18 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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,though it's a shame that some Western students sometimes demonstrate less respect for their mentors than perhaps they should.


I still think respect should be earnt rather than just a given. The Chinese way is that it's given unconditionally even if the teacher many be right or wrong.
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Kurochan



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:28 pm    Post subject: One-on-one Reply with quote

hhyy wrote:
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I was actually thinking about the scenario I posted. In Zhang's case, he only has very limited time and needs to be prepared for life in an English-speaking world. So I thought there might be a list of things that he should learn. i.e. the politeness system(s) in English.
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I think for this student one-on-one intensive study with a native speaker who's "been there" -- somebody who's been a TA himself, or remembers his college experiences with foreign teachers clearly, would be the best thing to do. A class isn't as good because it wouldn't be able to take Zhang's particular problems, needs, and situation into account. Not only would it be a good idea to go over grammar and vocabulary, but it would also be a good idea to explain American classroom behavior, the problems a teacher might face, cultural things, how students might react to a foreign teacher, and the use of formal vs. informal English. Like here, for example, your English is very good, but you've written "gonna," which is something we only SAY -- it's not formal, standard English. We never really write it.
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hhyy



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think for this student one-on-one intensive study with a native speaker who's "been there" -- somebody who's been a TA himself, or remembers his college experiences with foreign teachers clearly, would be the best thing to do.


I doubt that would be financially doable for most of the students.

Anyways, thanks for all the replies. just wondering if anyone knows any ESL textbooks or just reference books for developing pragmatic competence?

btw, thanks for the compliment on my English. I am currently studying in Canada, so I am supposed to speak the language better than the average Chinese students although I am not English crazed at all and thus have been quite lazy with improving my English.
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