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dajiang



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To Whiner: how did you do that!?
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Talkdoc



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2005 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dajiang wrote:
To Whiner: how did you do that!?


Happy Year of the Rooster! (Cock a-doodle-do) Wink

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ChinaMovieMagic



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am often asked to describe the differences between Western and Chinese culture. The Judaeo-Christian ethos is certainly the most significant one. That is one reason that I expect Chinese administrators to lie and Western ones to tell the truth.


I suspect you feel your expectations are well-fulfilled w/Chinese. I'm wondering if you feel the same regarding Westerners. If you get more specific, and change the category--from "Western administrators" to US Christian-professing Bush presidential team--I'm wondering if you feel they are generally telling the truth on matters such as:
* the Iraq invasion
* the "war on terrorism" which has been now transformed into a "war on totalitarianism"
*the global ecological crisis
*etc.

Although in agreement w/your initial perception, Chinese sage Lin YuTang, writing 70 years ago, had a different analysis of the CAUSES of the situation. Lin lamented that, throughout the centuries/millennia, Chinese rulers were among the most corrupt on the planet. BUT...his analyisis was that China's Confucian ethic was unrealistic and unreasonable, as it expected THE BEST of THE RULERS, without legal supervision/sanctions. Lin emphasized that Chinese history would have been different IF the Legalist Han Fei Tse had had had greater influence in Chinese history.

Lin contrasted the Chinese-Confucian approach w/the Western-legalist approach, which, he said, prepares sanctions and supervision to guard against official corruption. Lin wrote that since only several out of a hundred officials could be expected to be ethical without such sanctions and supervision, the legal system must create and enforce laws to protect the people/the society/the nation from the power of officials. He also focused upon three particular maladies of Chinese culture:
(1)Face
(2)Guanxi
(3) I forget the 3rd

Current US history demonstrates the continued relevance of this observation. The corruption of Bush-friends such as Halliburton, Bechtel, Enron and their officials continues without legal sanctions...even though they were born in a "Judeo-Christian culture."
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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dajiang wrote:
To Whiner: how did you do that!?


It's my midichlorines.
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