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JZer

Joined: 16 Jan 2005
Posts: 3898
Location: Pittsburgh

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 2:41 am Post subject:

Denise wrote,

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If your sole purpose in going to grad school is to get that little piece of paper regardless of its quality,

Too bad that no one has proven that my school is good or bad. Asia Traveller basically misinterpreted the focus of the program by trying to say it is not good because it does not offer many courses that train people to teach since the focus is on teaching German Literature and not becoming a German teacher. The teachers have PhD�s in German Literature and not Education.

Asia Traveller wrote,

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And he shouldn't recommend a program that offers a mere one (1) graduate seminar in German in a semester. What kind of range is that? There are also two (2) 600-level German courses that graduate students may take for credit in the Spring 2005 semester, but undergraduates may also enroll in those courses. How does that range compare to other schools? Graduate studies are opportunities to examine a broad range of topics and materials so that one can make an informed choice about potential research or professional areas. They are also opportunities to be exposed to all of a department's faculty members. With only one (1) graduate seminar in a term, the breadth is severely limited.

Most schools don't offer more than three graduate classes in German Literature. This is the norm. Do you know why? Most schools have only a few people in their German MA or PHD programs. How could then offer a wide range of classes? You can't offer 6 or more classes when there are only 6 graduate students in the department. Most German graduate programs are small because people are not knocking down the door to get an MA in German Literature.

The number of German classes being offered at some other institutes this semester:

Harvard-3 (Kleist and the Deconstruction of Classical Humanism: Seminar, Introduction to Middle High German, and Proseminar: Theories of Literature and Culture)

University of Colorado at Boulder -2

University of Pennsylvania- 2 actual classes about topics regarding German Literature (4 if you want to count the Thesis and Dissertation seminars).

University of Michigan(the website only has the fall classes posted)-4 (The german department does offer German 531 Teaching Methods but this should not be counted in the total of classes being offered since Asia Traveller was talking about German Literature course. The University of Delaware is also offering teaching methods this semester but the course is taught by another department.)

Anyways the German MA Program at the University of Delaware is standard. This program is largely the same as the MA programs in German that you will find at any large research institute. Yes, Denise and Asia Traveller will continue to distort the facts to try and belittle me because they are mad that I don't think MIIS is worth $23,000 a year. It is too bad that they have to make ad hominem arguments instead of actually arguing their point.

Last edited by JZer on Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:10 am; edited 1 time in total

JZer

Joined: 16 Jan 2005
Posts: 3898
Location: Pittsburgh

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:08 am Post subject:

Denise wrote,

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What I will never understand is why you refuse to relent and let people decide for themselves based on their own priorities.

First I was not going to even enter this discussion again but you and Asia traveller had to start the discussion again. My reply to the OP on this discussion board was not for or against anything. I merly suggesed that the OP read the previous discussion. I was letting it up to them to read it and decide for themselves what they thought and then you wrote:

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Sigh. The OP didn't even mention MIIS yet is already being warned about it by someone who has never been... Here we go again.

What I actually wrote in regards to MIIS?

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I would not recommend throwing away$50,000 or so to pursue an MA and MIIS when you can earn this degree for much less.

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The point is not who is correct but that people should at least question certain believes that they have.

I have never suggested that people should not make their own decisions. I used the words recommend and that they themselves should look deeper into the situation and question how things are perceived. This does not imply that they have to come up with my answer. I have merely argued why I think that MIIS is not worth $23,000 a year. I actually have other reasons to add to the argument but I was actually trying to stop this conversation even though it is entertaining!!!

I guess the real problem is that Denise has been offended because I said that I do not believe that the school that she received her MA from is worth $23,000 a year. The funny thing is I never even said that MIIS was not a good school so I am not sure why she was offended. I have heard it is a great school and don't dispute that. I just don't believe it is worth $23,000 a year since there are many programs that you can attend and learn a lot and that the money could be used for a lot of other things.

JZer

Joined: 16 Jan 2005
Posts: 3898
Location: Pittsburgh

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:18 am Post subject:

I wonder how many replies I will get by tomorrow morning!!!!! Can�t wait to see what emotions I stirred up this time.

AsiaTraveller

Joined: 24 May 2004
Posts: 908
Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Penang, Denpasar, Berkeley

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:33 am Post subject:

JZer wrote:

It is like anything. Some things can be done that others deem to be impossible since it comes down to knowing the rules of the game.

Sorry, but you won't hear anything from me in response to such eloquence.

I'm BUSY!!

I have to entertain some WASPs and then take some Brazilian chicks dancing later tonight (yep, they'll be exotic). Don't worry: I won't let the Brazilians meet the WASPs.

And early tomorrow morning I'm going to decide where I'll next flush thousands of dollars down the drain. Why do I keep wasting my money like that??

Sure wish I knew those "rules of the game." Life would be so much more simplistic -- oops! Sorry... I meant "simple."

AsiaTraveller

Joined: 24 May 2004
Posts: 908
Location: Singapore, Mumbai, Penang, Denpasar, Berkeley

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:53 am Post subject:

JZer wrote:

Anyways the German MA Program at the University of Delaware is standard. This program is largely the same as the MA programs in German that you will find at any large research institute.

And the Hyundai Elantra is just as safe as a Volvo.

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