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Salaries in China: Why Are They Dropping?
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Old Dog



Joined: 22 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 4:12 pm    Post subject: Salaries Reply with quote

Myra G. surely does post some powerful stuff. I'm still deconstructing! Come on, Millie. Give us your exegesis.

Anyway, I think I now understand better why salaries are dropping.
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millie



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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have only come to the conclusion that a full appreciation of its significance will take time.

Do check back later in the year, but meanwhile, like the students and teacher respectively, I am learning heaps and the occassionly rave too.
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ResiWorld



Joined: 08 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calm down millie, MyraG has a good thing going. Her training center is one of the few legit ones i've seen. She has remarkably small classes in which you can really teach. I would love to teach there. She has a good thing going which is respectable.

The salary you get definitely depends on you. I am by no means a red hand with a great deal of teaching experience, but I've learned a great deal about the trade since I've arrived here. When I arrived I was one of those people who was clueless about salary, conditions, and teaching. Now, I've taught kindergarten through Senior school in China. I've tutored college and high school. I've discovered that I do like this trade. I've learned that I love teaching kindergarten after the initial shock of being stuck in a room with 30 rugrats in a p***-poor school in Shandong. I now know that I'm really not prepared to teach college level English. I can't answer the questions that many people have for me off the top of my head. I often say "this is the right answer, but I can't say why." I am simply not that educated in this field. But, I am definitely prepared to teach every class up until college. I'm young, and I can't give every answer but . . . hold up - we're talking money.

I can do my current job very well. I may get paid twice as much as many people, but I work for a training center. This training center pays attention to us teachers. We do our job, they keep an eye on us. The Chinese teachers give feedback. I get paid well now, and later if I wish to return here, I can also have a job very quickly. Many other teachers may have a hard time returning to this school. I see how they teach, and hear from the Chinese teachers. It's not a character judgment, simply a matter of whether on can teach children in a productive manner. This school is fitting into Darwin's theory.

soorryy . . . my bed is calling (i really shouldn't post this, but what the hey)
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ContemporaryDog



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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zero Hero wrote:


One year from now you will need a degree, a TEFL certificate of sorts, and certified experience (and perhaps even a PGCE) to work as a FT in Mainland China. The maximum wage will be set by law at 3,500 RMB a month.

Mark my words.


Come off it, do you really believe anyone with a PGCE would work for 3500 yuan a month?
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andrew_gz



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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Come off it, do you really believe anyone with a PGCE would work for 3500 yuan a month?"

Well, they're working for 4 or 5 thousand.
Not much of a difference.
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ContemporaryDog



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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2005 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrew_gz wrote:
"Come off it, do you really believe anyone with a PGCE would work for 3500 yuan a month?"

Well, they're working for 4 or 5 thousand.
Not much of a difference.


Who with a PGCE is working for that much? Surely with a PGCE you can get onto the Net scheme in Hong kong, or work at an international school somewhere else?
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Zero Hero



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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ContemporaryDog wrote:
Come off it, do you really believe anyone with a PGCE would work for 3500 yuan a month?

I am merely passing on what I heard at a conference held recently on the Mainland. My own personal beliefs could not be any less relevant.

As it happens, however, I don't find it difficult to believe. People from the Philippines, India, and Nigeria with PGCEs will happily work for 3,500 RMB a month.

And I also think you are forgetting the large windfall (RMB re-evaluation) that many still seem to think they will profit from. Before there is any such re-evaluation, all salaries will be lowered to compensate. You did not really think you would suddenly become richer overnight, did you? How very amusing!
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Zero Hero



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2005 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ContemporaryDog wrote:
andrew_gz wrote:
"Come off it, do you really believe anyone with a PGCE would work for 3500 yuan a month?"

Well, they're working for 4 or 5 thousand.
Not much of a difference.


Who with a PGCE is working for that much? Surely with a PGCE you can get onto the Net scheme in Hong kong, or work at an international school somewhere else?

I thought you were there 'for the experience, man'?
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