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CECTPA
Joined: 18 Oct 2005 Posts: 65 Location: an undisclosed bunker
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:58 am Post subject: Black women in Istanbul |
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Hi R
I wanted to jump in on this before -- another black woman's perspective. I'm also showing up in December for a second look. PM me if you wish.
When I visited, I had the sensors out for a generally racist vibe such as I experienced as an obvious foreigner in Eastern Europe (not all people were hostile, but the manifestations were not pretty) and I didn't feel it.
I didn't get harassed, but maybe I just wasn't there long enough. I've got a repertoire of 'don't mess with me' evil blackwoman glares (some of which I stole off Grace Jones) and didn't really need to use them, but I guess those are not effective against pervs who grab butts.
Istiklal Caddesi is kinda skeevy, and only becomes more so the later it gets; I agree with the other posters, it's better to walk there with company.
The Turkish guys who wanted to talk to me were respectful, and I had heard the horror stories so that was a pleasant surprise. (Also it helps a LOT if you learn some Turkish) I noticed the African men were quite friendly also; they spoke but nobody bothered me.
I don't know; probably your typical urban defensive posture is advisable, but don't let a few idiots scare you off. And we'll see about what the employment picture is like.
The world is your bus. You paid the same fare, sit wherever you want! |
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Mark Loyd
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| very Rosa Parks |
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Henry_Cowell

Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 3352 Location: Berkeley
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Mark Loyd wrote: |
| very Rosa Parks |
So very 31. |
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Mark Loyd
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| There is a lot of skeeviness in Turkey. |
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Mark Loyd
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Henry_Cowell wrote: |
| Mark Loyd wrote: |
| very Rosa Parks |
So very 31. |
You can be such a turkey sometimes. |
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Henry_Cowell

Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 3352 Location: Berkeley
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| At least I am not in Turkey. |
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Mark Loyd
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Neither am I. |
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Henry_Cowell

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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Right. |
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Mark Loyd
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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| right |
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teacherdude
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:57 pm Post subject: same shi% |
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I can see u r up to the same shi%, no matter what ur name is.
TD |
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teacherdude
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:13 pm Post subject: response |
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To summarise,
u can find work here in Ist.
Turks are coming around to the realisation that not all North Amercians are blond and blue eyed.
You will be considered exotic and get a lot of attention.
Don't take the staring personally. Turks stare at anything that is considered different, ie. blacks, East Indians, gays etc.
U should be wary of Istiklal Cadessi late at night and should avoid walking there alone at late hours.
U will most Turks friendly and eager to know u.
Will you be embraced with open arms and get a job? Yes.
Will you meet up with some discrimination because of your colour? Yes.
However, u find the same in the US, Canada and the UK.
If you have the patience for the odd bit of ignorance, u will thoroughly enjoy your time here.
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Mark Loyd
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Beware of the PM we all know is coming that will offer you an illegal job. |
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teacherdude
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:56 am Post subject: beware |
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| Mark Loyd wrote: |
| Beware of the PM we all know is coming that will offer you an illegal job. |
Beware of the ass who hijacks threads and whose credibility is at a minimum.
TD |
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Mark Loyd
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:12 am Post subject: |
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TD
You are an angry young man. |
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NMB
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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| As a black woman who lived and worked in Istanbul, I agree with Teacherdude's summary. |
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