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Baba Alex



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:29 am    Post subject: Re: Just over cartoons !!!!!!!!! Reply with quote

billybuzz wrote:
This whole episode is just over the top as far as the response from the "injured " party is concerned ,they burn our flgs and issue death threats over a bit of harmless fun .Makes you wonder what would happen if we did the same to their holy book and flags or blew up a mosque or two . Then the the fan would get well and truly clogged with it .


Who's 'we'?
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dmb



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Who's 'we'?
EFL teachers of course.
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Who's 'we'?

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EFL teachers of course.


It would actually create the first meaningful reason for distinguishing between TESOL & EFL !!

Maybe EFL teachers could paint the Danish flag onto their faces ...
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dmb



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It would actually create the first meaningful reason for distinguishing between TESOL & EFL !!
Call me stupid but if you are in the UK or US you teach ESL, but if you are in Turkey or the Gulf you teach EFL.
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Otterman Ollie



Joined: 23 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:50 am    Post subject: Call you stupid ? Reply with quote

Is that some kind of challenge,do you really want to be known as that ?Some may say that having that number of posts to your credit is proof enough itself ,perhaps you could rephrase that last post ,I know, one of so many .
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dmb



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is that some kind of challenge
No
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do you really want to be known as that
I've been called worse
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Some may say that having that number of posts to your credit is proof enough
really?
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,perhaps you could rephrase that last post
OK all you need to do is ask.

All I was saying was that if you teach English in a country where it is the lingua franca then it is a second language so you are an ESL teacher.
If you teach English in a country where it is a foreign language then you are an EFL teacher.

I was confused about the painting Danish flags on face bit.

Anyway what do I Care, it is Liverpool- man U this weekend. Does anyone know if it is on telly?
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I understand it, the acronym TESOL (Teaching of English to Speakers of Other Languages) stands above the specific categories of ESL and EFL ...

The Danish flag on the faces of EFL teachers ... is the identifying colour shown by the 'we' of Mr Buzz's post ... the 'we' you said were EFL teachers ... and the 'we' that others may distance themselves from by being referred to as TESOL (or TEFL or TESL) teachers ...


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calsimsek



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmb:
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Who's 'we'?
EFL teachers of course.


O.K if we are 'we' who are 'us' and ' them '. While I'm at it who am I am I are part of Mr Buzzes 'we' or his 'their flag group'^

Makes you wounder. Rolling Eyes Confused

Come back Rodney King = Can't we all just get along.... Exclamation Wink
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dmb



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acronym....... macronym.

ok it doesn't quite have the same ring about it as


Taksim..,. maksim
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Sheikh Inal Ovar



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

out of interest, dmb ... where did you serve your time in the Gulf ...
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Baba Alex



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

calsimsek wrote:
dmb:
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Who's 'we'?
EFL teachers of course.


O.K if we are 'we' who are 'us' and ' them '. While I'm at it who am I am I are part of Mr Buzzes 'we' or his 'their flag group'^

Makes you wounder. Rolling Eyes Confused

Come back Rodney King = Can't we all just get along.... Exclamation Wink


I don't want to be part of any flag waving/burning moaning bitching groups on either side thankyouverymuch.
If there's one thing that this whole cartoon affair has proved is that everyone is an arsehole.
Except me, I'm just a cunt.
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calsimsek



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baba Alex:
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If there's one thing that this whole cartoon affair has proved is that everyone is an arsehole.
Except me, I'm just a *beep*.


Does this mean the rest of 'us' (who is us?) are arseholes or can we be *beep* like you. Confused
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dmb



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SIO, Qatar.
Interesting article from Time.
http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,1156609,00.html
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Baba Alex



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

calsimsek wrote:
Baba Alex:
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If there's one thing that this whole cartoon affair has proved is that everyone is an arsehole.
Except me, I'm just a *beep*.


Does this mean the rest of 'us' (who is us?) are arseholes or can we be *beep* like you. Confused


You? You're a *beep*ing *beep*y *beep*

Nah only joking, you're a *beep*
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calsimsek



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baba Alex:
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You? You're a *beep*ing *beep*y *beep*


OHOH. I'M *BEEP* that's got to be better than anything I could be with billybuzz.
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