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sallycat



Joined: 11 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i found this www.distel.ca/womlist/countries/japan.html , which might help you get started.

actually, i had to go to the police last year when a former friend of mine had a psychotic episode and started stalking me. they were sympathetic but crap. when they finally got around to asking me "so, did you have sex with him?" i felt like saying "hey, what took you so long" (actual response -- me: "no" *short pause*. them: "so, did you kiss him?")
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Jazz1975



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I may actually have this list already (printed out from before). I recognize a lot of the resources on here. Thanks anyway though. You can pm me sometime if you'd like Very Happy .
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David W



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sallycat wrote:
i found this www.distel.ca/womlist/countries/japan.html , which might help you get started.

actually, i had to go to the police last year when a former friend of mine had a psychotic episode and started stalking me. they were sympathetic but crap. when they finally got around to asking me "so, did you have sex with him?" i felt like saying "hey, what took you so long" (actual response -- me: "no" *short pause*. them: "so, did you kiss him?")

Not that it's any consolation, but the cops here do pretty much the same thing to Japanese women being stalked.
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would agree. The police response to stalking has been criticized, but ladies, it does go both ways. A few male teachers I know have been stalked by students and exgirlfriends. Calling to his home, watching the apartment, waiting around near his workplace, etc. Creepy, but of course usually no threat of violence.

You have to remember, issues like domestic violence and sexual assaults are not really talked about here. So, many people think it's not a problem,.... yet!

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accused her of aiding islamic terrorist groups because she had been at karaoke with an indonesian guy. and because "your name, not englishman's name" --insisted that


Nice Rolling Eyes , and what about the domestic terrorists?
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Nagoyaguy



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THe Js see being a cop as just another municipal job. NOT as anything special that demands special skills. It's just a steady paycheck with a pension after 25 years. Kind of like being a teacher for a lot of people...

The reason you dont see the cops is that they are busy drinking tea and smoking in their koban(s). That takes a lot of time, you know. Rolling Eyes

It seems that they deliberately pick the easiest targets (bicycles, women, foreigners) to enforce the law on. The more challenging things like real crime are, frankly, too hard to deal with- there's no upside for them.
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Montbell



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow sallycat, that was really disturbing.

I don't know why, but in my 4 years there I was never stopped by a cop. And one time, when I did need help, they were kind and actually helpful. Maybe because my MIL insisted on taking me to the station when I first moved there to "meet everybody" in town. No joke!

But even in other towns I never had a problem. hmmmm.... interesting....
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sallycat



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gaijinalways wrote:
I would agree. The police response to stalking has been criticized, but ladies, it does go both ways.


yeah i know it goes both ways. what has that got to do with anything? (or to put it another way, why is there a "but" in that sentence?
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Apsara



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was surprised by the poster who said that they think Japanese police have a minimal presence in public here- I walk past two kobans at least every day on my way to work and there's always at least one officer standing outside.

On the other hand in my home city (Auckland, NZ) I could not only go weeks without seeing a cop, I couldn't tell you where to find one other than calling 111 (our emergency number).

It's natural for all the bad experiences to come out in a discussion like this, but I'm pretty sure that the majority of us foreigners in Japan don't get constantly harrassed by the police, which is the impression you could get from this forum. No doubt it's a lot worse for anyone who looks Middle Eastern than it is for a blonde Caucasian like me, and I can imagine that men are also more likely to get stopped than women and asked to show their card, this may be why I've never been bothered by them.

The only time I have been stopped by the police in my 8 years here was when I was doubling on the back of my (Japanese) boyfriend's bicycle. I got off as instructed, they radioed to check the registration and then told us to be careful. I have never been asked to show my gaijin card by the authorites other than on my way into Narita Airport where everyone has to show ID after getting off the train.

Jazz1975, from one of your posts it sounded like you were starting to get concerned, I don't think you have reason to be really. As you're of Asian descent you are even less likely to get stopped than I am- a possible exception being if you look more South-East Asian than Japanese- I have heard of a couple of cases of Filipinas and Thais being asked for their gaijin cards often.

Remember some of the advice you get here but don't worry about it when you hear horror stories- if that kind of experience was so common, would we all still be here? Probably not...
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Jazz1975



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apsara wrote:
Jazz1975, from one of your posts it sounded like you were starting to get concerned, I don't think you have reason to be really. As you're of Asian descent you are even less likely to get stopped than I am- a possible exception being if you look more South-East Asian than Japanese- I have heard of a couple of cases of Filipinas and Thais being asked for their gaijin cards often.

Remember some of the advice you get here but don't worry about it when you hear horror stories- if that kind of experience was so common, would we all still be here? Probably not...


Hmmmmmm...I've gone back and read my two or three posts on here and in one of them, I merely said that I would use being Asian to my advantage and "blend in with the crowd". In the other, I said that I wanted to hook up with a few women's organizations so I knew where to turn in order to access information. With regard to this remark, I come from the school of thought that "to be forewarned is to be forearmed". The other place I was coming from is that I will be a foreigner regardless of my race with NO support from family and friends. That said, being in the social services field both as a worker and as a volunteer, I know all too well the plight of people in ANY country (including North America) who don't have status (ie. no citizenship). It can get pretty ugly. And I don't want to take my chances in a Japanese jail, esp. knowing that I don't have permanent/long-term resident status let alone citizenship. On top of that, I don't speak Japanese. Perhaps I'm overreacting (or not; I'll leave that up to everyone to decide), but I feel the best way to go about this is to be educated, to know your rights and on that note, to know where to turn in order to access the proper information. As for the women's groups and organizations, I had planned on hooking up with them anyways for my own interest. Btw: As far as I know, I don't look Filipino or Thai. I'm Chinese-Canadian so my guess is that's what I look like.
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Jazz1975



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just want to add that it'll take more than a few horror stories to prevent me from coming to Japan Smile .
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angrysoba



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jazz1975 wrote:
Just want to add that it'll take more than a few horror stories to prevent me from coming to Japan Smile .


Did you know there is a ghost that haunts all female toilets in schools in Japan. Her name is Hanako and if you say her name three times she will come up through the toilet into your cubicle.

Still want to come to Japan?
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Jazz1975



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

angrysoba wrote:
Did you know there is a ghost that haunts all female toilets in schools in Japan. Her name is Hanako and if you say her name three times she will come up through the toilet into your cubicle.

Still want to come to Japan?


Sure, why not? Maybe I can say 'hi' and shake her hand...lol! Laughing
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angrysoba



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently, Japanese cops are vigilantes in their spare time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4548380.stm

Does anyone know if this made the news in Japan?
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wangtesol



Joined: 24 May 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case that list of women's organizations does not turn out to be too helpful, several of the staff of the foreign teacher unions are women who deal with sexual harassment cases and the like. And they speak English and Japanese. Some are non-Japanese who are teachers like yourselves.

Here are their websites...

For Tokyo area
http://www.nambufwc.org

For Osaka area
http://www.generalunion.org

For Fukuoka area
http://fukuoka.generalunion.org
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Keith_Alan_W



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is probably a stupid question, but what "card" are the cops asking for?

Usually when I've had to deal with cops while walking, I've first pretended to not have noticed them or that they were interested in talking to me, and if they do keep coming, I shew them away as if they were an annoying fly or beggar. If this doesn't work, I act extremely disinterested in them and what there saying by glancing around and asking them to repeat their questions.

Works most of the time.
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