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younggeorge



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PostPosted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on, VS! You know bebsi has to fizz a little!
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2006 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

younggeorge wrote:
Come on, VS! You know bebsi has to fizz a little!


Laughing has to? or wants to?
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Bebsi



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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 11:45 am    Post subject: topos :-) Reply with quote

Bebsi doesn't make topos of that nature. You should know by now that Bebsi's tongue is sticking out the Bebsi ear!!!! Wink

Christ, I know my way around the typography of this site Laughing

Have been known to make a few typos in my time though Embarassed

To err is human, to forgive is just...difficult!!
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scot47



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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2006 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WHY CANT I USE APOSTROPHE'S FOR PLURAL'S ?
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Bebsi



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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: Apostrophe's'''' Reply with quote

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WHY CANT I USE APOSTROPHE'S FOR PLURAL'S ?


You just cant, Scot, thats all theres to it, its written in stone and its indelible.

All joke's aside, there are some people out there who are taking this seriously. QoS has been getting her knacker's in a knit over this, over on other thread's.

You actually can of course use apostrophes for plurals, where you have plural possessives, e.g. the teachers' dilemma. Of course, you cannot use apostrophes to MAKE plurals, such as "lots of silly post's in this thread's.

Laughing Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing that confuses me... attempting a serious note here...

This has always been one of my pet peeves. This mistake is everywhere now... newspapers, novels, and signs. Certainly it is a reflection of the lousy American education system that doesn't want to correct errors as it may harm the little darlin's self-esteem.

YET... I constantly make the mistake when I am typing - or keyboarding as it is called these days. (so what do they call a typo now? but I digress...)

What is it about my brain - and apparently many others of us who know the rules - that makes us put an incorrect apostrophe in there so often. (the its/it's being the worse for me)

Any psycholinguistic sorts out there who know the answer to that?

VS
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not only American ! In Britain this error with the apostrophe is called 'The Greengrocer's Apostrophe' - as in ' Apple's 55 pence a kilo'.

Personally I would abolish the damn thing ! Who will join me in setting up

THE INERNATIONAL SOCIETY FOR THE ABOLITION OF THE APOSTROPHE

???????????????????????????????????????
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Bebsi



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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2006 10:48 pm    Post subject: apo...oh, who cares? Reply with quote

"ISFAOTA"

I can see it now, annual conferences in Marriot's and Hyatt's all over the world:

International Society for the Abolition of Apostrophe's

Symposium on the effectivenes's of Apostrophe's, June 26'th, 2006, Hilton's Hotel, Avenue of the America's, New York's City, NY.

This years theme: "The necessity's of the use of apostrophe's in ones use of the English's language."

Guest speaker's - Dr. Beb Zee, Prof. Scott Fortyseven and Dr. Vail D'Sentments.

Fame at last!!
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id say forget the speaker's and just head for the bar, but I know at least two of us are teetotaler's... how about you Dr Beb?

(but no one has answered my oh so serious question. I know why the Greengrocer makes the mistake. Why do I and so many other English teachers? is it the dreaded brain f a r t?)

VS


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scot47



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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see the society more as a pressure group and not a learned society !

I mean a sort of GRAMMATICAL GREENPEACE !
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Bebsi



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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2006 12:29 pm    Post subject: Grammatical Greenpeace? Reply with quote

Would they use alliteration? Advance the advantages of assonance?

I'd say there would be pressure, alright. Not the kind Scot imagines, tho!!

VS, you could be on the right track there; indeed, more than you think, because a 'paper' delivered by Dr. Beb Zee would actually be DELIVERED in the bar (so maybe not the best place for seeking refuge). As the said Beb is not by any means a teetotaler, a small libation of perhaps a good Cabernet from Murfatlar or maybe a Feteasca Negra would be in evidence for the purpose of vocal lubrication....as if needed!

Now, wheresh dat shtuff I written on de ushe of aphos...fost...fostfeees... ??
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brianS



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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="scot47"]Not only American ! In Britain this error with the apostrophe is called 'The Greengrocer's Apostrophe' - as in ' Apple's 55 pence a kilo'.

I believe that there is also Golden Deliciou's !!!
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Bebsi



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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 8:52 pm    Post subject: A question: Reply with quote

Instead of "potatoes", if you were a greengrocer could you say, "Potato's?" What about "Potatoe's?"

Would that mean the singular was "Potatoe"?
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guangho



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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: A question: Reply with quote

Bebsi wrote:


Would that mean the singular was "Potatoe"?


I'm having Dan Quayle flashbacks. Please make them stope.
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Bebsi



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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 9:26 am    Post subject: DQ Reply with quote

I too was thinking of Dan Quayle.

Who remembers Dan?

Any Quayleisms out there? Let's have them!

Should that be Quaylisms? Quaylism's?
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