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spiral78 · Joined: 05 Apr 2004 Posts: 11534 Location: On a Short Leash

Right on, Betti!

snuffy519 · Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 16 Location: Prague

"Since when did the average American have a worldview?"

Talk about reinforcing stereotypes. Ha.

You mistake confidence for pompousness. Not my problem.

And, by the way, it was your like-minded posters who hijacked the thread. Ciao.

Betti · Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Posts: 44

I'll reinforce another stereotype: your inability to appreciate irony!!! Very Happy

Leon30 · Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 60 Location: South Korea

Interesting.

Pretty off topic here from the OP but...

I work in South Korea. From time to time I end up meeting or coming accross (not like that Wink

) fellow Brit teachers fresh off the boat. I'll be sitting in a bar with them and some of them will come out with these unoriginal, misinformed diatribes against 'Stupid Yanks' etc....

I encountered the same thing when I worked in London.

It really embarasses me to be a Brit when I meet these types.

They come out with this crap and when you challenge them why they 'don't like' Amercians all they can come up with is some tired old crap about them being loud or not being able to appreciate irony (yawn) or some missinformed, uneducated drivel about the Iraq War and George Bush which usually proves them quite misinfomred and naive about our own countries actions in the Iraq War. They're also missing the fact that 50% (or - lets face it - probably more) didn't vote for G.W.

You then ask them if they've ever been to the States (I have and the people I met - one month in Oregon - were very friendly, kind, smart) or had American friends or even met an American or had a conversation with one and the answer is usually 'no.'

What's evenmore embarrassing is they are usually pretty inarticulte and ignorant types and the crazy thing is that by blindly jumping on the 'hate America' bandwagon without any experience to base it on, they are being more stupid, arrogant and ignorant than the people their insults are directed at.

They make me cringe, they really do.

I've had and have as many decent friends form the US as I have from anywhere else.

And no, I'm not a 'sock' of an American poster or any crap like that, I'm just embarassed by and sick of these twits you find from place to place...

I do think it's a bit of a risk to go work in a country illegally, but hey - that's someones choice if they choose to do it and they pay the price if caught and it's unlikely to affect my fate in life, so big deal...

Peace.

Betti · Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Posts: 44

Oh Leon...please learn to spell inarticulate before writing it! No-one in these posts, as far as I can interpret, has been 'anti-American'. We Europeans were merely saying that we're not personally responsible for not allowing non-EU members to work in Europe. I've got no problems with any nationality coming to Europe to seek work. I am, however, very much against nationalistic rantings on these forums along the lines of, 'my country's bigger/better/fairer than yours'. That, to me, is misinformed (note the use of only one 's'). My postings were very much tongue-in-cheek, sadly a sense of humour appears to be forbidden here...I guess I'll just crawl back under my stone!! Embarassed

ilaria · Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 88 Location: Sicily

Why won't this thread die...

Teacher in Rome · Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Posts: 1286

Leon30 · Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 60 Location: South Korea

peder · Joined: 30 Jan 2003 Posts: 45

bla bla bla,
For those of you non eu passport holders, dont listen to any of this. If you want to come to italy just come.

SueH · Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Posts: 1022 Location: Northern Italy

.. and to add a comment to TiR's. I really don't give a stuff what you all do, and I'm not prepared to give any practical advice any more as all one gets is abuse, diatribes about socialised medicine and the like.

However there is a useful Italian forum at expattalk.com which has a large proportion of US contributors. There are other forums but those which have more UK nationals tend not to have the same concerns.

sickbag · Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 155 Location: Blighty

snuffy519 · Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 16 Location: Prague

Another member of the Hate America crowd, huh? It's fun to belong to something.

There is no bigger cliche than an EFL teacher. Sickbag. I suppose we'll agree to disagree. It really doesn't hurt my feelings. I promise.

For the OP, if you work illegally in the EU, don't complain. If you want to work in the E.U. and find it difficult, don't complain. Live for the exhilaration and live with the consequences.

Oh, and don't post on these message boards as they are more well known for misery and moaning than information and ingenuity. You'll find the same very small core of people on here who appear to kill time (and enthusiasm) by being the "expert" everyone benefits from listening to.

stillnosheep · Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2068 Location: eslcafe

snuffy519 · Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 16 Location: Prague

The "US played it's part. Eventually."

Ugh. The Soviets helped. They also did everything in their power in the years preceding the war to allow the Germans to conquer the continent.

Does the Pacific not count, either? Geez. Read a history book.

stillnosheep · Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2068 Location: eslcafe

Have a look at the casualty figures. The USSR was the only country opposing the Nazis in any major battlefront for the best part of 3 years and continued to engage the overwhelming majority of the German army for the remainder of the war while the Western allies were fighting a much smaller German army on the Western front. Read a history book.

No arguments about the Pacific. Japan attacked Pearl Harbour. The US declared war on Japan and her allies.