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Help me understand that China's not all that bad!
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jammish



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always laugh when the Chinese tell me that China is 'very beautiful'. Sure, I have been to some very very attractive places. Dali is like what I imagine Kathmandu felt like in the 60s, Yangshuo and its environs are stunning. Have been to various other 'mountains' (hills) which have also been pleasant. Where I am now is a decent urban environment with the beach, a small mountain, a hilly park etc all nearby. Hainan Island has some v.good beaches

However, one thing China is not, is beautiful, as a whole. Chinese cities are undoubtedly the ugliest that I have seen - so lumpen and grey. Places like India have awful poverty, but also tons of colour and fascinating sites.

Despite all that ugliness, I am not that regretful about coming here. My wife and I have saved a lot of money (way more than I could have saved in Britain), we have invested in our first flat, and I have made some good friends. And of course I never would have met my wife if I hadn't come out here.
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cj750



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A great line in "The Great Gatsby" refers to Gatsy's dream as "a vision of vast, vulgar, and meretricious beauty."


right on....
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Shan-Shan



Joined: 28 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The quote from "The Great Gatsby" is on the mark.

Some months ago I read a short piece written by a Canadian reporter visiting Shanghai. The intrepid investigator spent an evening out with some members of the Canadian embassy staff as an aid to better familiarize himself with the night life of Shanghai. About two hours into their escapding, one of the embassy staff audibly sighed in the back of the taxi: "You know, Shanghai, China for that matter, is just a whorre. All lights, make-up and temptation, but really nothing in the end."

And to live in this exciting region of change and chance is so easy...


The ESL basement is open to everyone -- 18 years to 81 English (fluent or almost) speakers. While young, some played doctor, dentist or even astronaught among a myriad of real professions. In China, everyone can play English teacher in the magical ESL world. However, spending too long at it can be harmful after returning to the real world.

Interview back home:

"So, how are you qualified to teach English?"

- "I make people smile and laugh! I also have a highschool diploma which means I understand people world, too."


China is imaginary land for a lot of westerners. ESL is their means of survival. Think: all you have to do is speak in English in front of people, and smile. This ensures your tum tum is full. Simple life.
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vikdk



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The ESL basement is open to everyone -- 18 years to 81 English

And don't they enjoy that chance of at last becoming a special offer - they may even get to love those stares and extra attention - even if they only realise it when they finaly get back home and have once again taken on the garb of everyday urban anonymity.
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prof



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Compared to Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam and other other EFL markets, China doesn't suck at all.

It's a challenge at times. But unlike Japan you are usually allowed to actually 'teach' and live in a nice apartment. Unlike Korea, you can date a Chinese woman without worry of getting attacked. It goes on..
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baasbabelaas



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Compared to Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam and other other EFL markets, China doesn't suck at all.


Taiwan was good to me, or at least, good to my bank balance. It put some wear-and-tear on my soul though.

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However, spending too long at it can be harmful after returning to the real world.

Interview back home:

"So, how are you qualified to teach English?"

- "I make people smile and laugh! I also have a highschool diploma which means I understand people world, too."


On the money, spot on. The longer I'm here, the more I worry about getting back into what I was doing back home (publishing).

Then again, the ESL 'industry' is growing in my country, if I were to continue teaching there.

Also, we've gotta keep in mind, we're living in the world's factory. All we need to do is find prospective buyers and reliable sellers. That is if you're business-minded (I'm not - but I'm sure I could learn a trick or two from the locals)..

Note to myself: there is a way out, there is a way out, there is a way out of all of this..
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prof



Joined: 25 Jun 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shan-Shan wrote:
The intrepid investigator spent an evening out with some members of the Canadian embassy staff as an aid to better familiarize himself with the night life of Shanghai.

And their spouses are all likely teaching English, illegally, and not declaring their earnings.
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