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goingbald
Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Posts: 15 Location: Earth
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:11 am Post subject: |
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Gosh, QoS!!
What a lovely post. While I agree with Stephen Jones for his pragmatics, I do find that if you make an effort, you can have a really good time.
If you click with someone, you click with em, regardless of where you or they are from. The only barriers to making friends that I see are linguistic and cultural.
If one or both of the parties to a friendship can overcome the language barrier, and is prepared to question the assumptions of their own culture(s), two or more people can get to know each other and enjoy social intercourse. You often find that many things about the Saudi culture, after you've been here a while, appear distinctly impressive, rather than backwards, or ridiculous, or any other words an expat would care to use.
I don't have particularly strong relationships with any Saudi of my age that I know, but these things take time. Once I was holding forth about cultural differences, and my interlocutor expressed a lot of interest in what I was saying, even after he had been told "when the food arrives, speech is cut off". (an Arabic proverb of questionable pedigree. I think it's a modern one).
I humbly believe that Saudis are not averse to adopting things from other cultures, as long as they retain certain core values which are quintessential to them.
You never know how things are going to turn out. You might enjoy a wasta friendship with someone/some people. You might enjoy business friendship. You might just enjoy the age-old friendship of two or more people enjoying each other's company.
Don't stay in the expat ghetto.
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psouthan
Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 7
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:02 am Post subject: why stay? |
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"After being here 3 weeks these hopes had been crushed"
Why did you contiue to stay? |
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Taiwanlight Zone
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 25 Location: Danshui, Taiwan
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: |
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| dude, I'd love to tell you fairytales but you'd only blame me later, when you get here. You've got to understand what you're getting into. You will be doing time, essentially. A joyless prison sentence. |
So things obviously haven't changed since I did my porridge there in '88. I did want to come back for the baksheesh at the time but didn't have the requisite qualifications. Looking back I think they did me a favour.
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| You never know how things are going to turn out. You might enjoy a wasta friendship with someone/some people. You might enjoy business friendship. You might just enjoy the age-old friendship of two or more people enjoying each other's company. |
And then again, in Saudi you might not and in all likelihood, you won't. |
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Van Norden
Joined: 23 Oct 2004 Posts: 409
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| So things obviously haven't changed since I did my porridge there in '88. |
The nominal salaries haven't changed much either. |
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Queen of Sheba
Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 397
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Taiwanlight Zone wrote: |
Goingbald said:
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| You never know how things are going to turn out. You might enjoy a wasta friendship with someone/some people. You might enjoy business friendship. You might just enjoy the age-old friendship of two or more people enjoying each other's company. |
And then again, in Saudi you might not and in all likelihood, you won't. |
Certainly not with that attitude. |
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