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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
I'm not sure in what ways Canadian citizenship would benefit you. As you know, it won't help you with living in Europe, or basically anywhere else that doesn't welcome US citizens.

It wouldn't be for me, but for my husband. He doesn't want to go to the USA, and personally neither do I. He wants to go to Canada, because he thinks that we can make a lot of money in a little time. Personally I want to go to Europe or China. China is starting to look better and better.

What are the start up costs in Canada? Housing, furniture, etc? How much money would we need?
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Vanica



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spiral you funny guy. Seems you are giving Americans a bad name out there in Alberta! Razz
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ls650



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
What are the start up costs in Canada? Housing, furniture, etc? How much money would we need?

Take a look at my response in the other thread you started, but it depends a lot on you. Do you have family you can lean on? Would you two be willing to share accommodations, or will you want to rent an apartment for yourselves? Want part of Canada are you talking about? Are you willing to pay the higher rental costs in a city center, or will you rent a cheaper place and commute?

My suggestion is to pick a location you want to relocate to, and then start looking at newspaper ads, employment ads, etc. Figure out roughly what your expenses will be for an apartment, food, utilities, transportation, etc. That'll give you a ballpark figure to work with.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gee, thanks, Vanica Shocked
There are more US citizens living in Calgary than in any other city outside of the US. It's called Little Houston. I'm probably not having any significant impact. In any case, I'm not there more than three or four months out of every year. I'm not there now. Won't be until sometime in 2008.

Naturegirl, so far as the 'lot of money in a little time' - not anywhere I know of!! While not all provinces have the super-high housing costs featured in Alberta, pay for ESL is generally relatively low. You would be eligible for university positions, but they are not wildly lucrative -not enough to save up any significant amounts. You might want to read up on earlier threads about the relatively low pay for ESL positions. You woudn't even want to consider working for private schools - they pay subsistence wages only. The uni jobs are thin on the ground and USUALLY go to Canadian citizens - I got super-lucky, but remember that I found a job from inside the country, and had been there a year before I landed one.

Vanica, enjoy your new country. You're obviously in the honeymoon stages, and I hope it goes on forever for you. But other people have to be realistic.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, IS650, you're forgetting that naturegirl probably can't get into Canada in the first place.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not know how it is about Americans. I am from Eastern Europe. Ph.D in linguistics from my country, M.A. in journalism from the USA, more than 10 years of experience of teaching English at the university in my country.

What is written on the official website of Canadian immigration, the profession does not matter. The level of education matters + years of experience.

If you have M.A. - maximum points, if you have at least 4 years for the period of the last 10 years in this profession - maximum points.

My husband is in computing, but with his education we would get fewer points than if I am the main applicant. This policy was accepted in 2003 or 2002.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The standards are different for US citizens, Vanica.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not Vanica
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Vanica



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here I am!!! Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
The standards are different for US citizens, Vanica.


And why is that? Why is it so difficult for us? I agree with you in the fact that the jobs are horribly paid and it'll take us forever to get out of debt if we go, try telling that to my husband. He's confident that we can earn a lot in a short amount of time. Honestly, I think that we'd do better in China.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saying we were to apply to go to Canada, how long does the application process take? spiral78 and Vanica, you've done it, what was your experience?
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GambateBingBangBOOM



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
He wants to go to Canada, because he thinks that we can make a lot of money in a little time.


WTF!!!! Shocked Laughing

Almost half the EFL teachers at hogwans in Korea are Canadian university graduates. They're there because they can't pay for the flight to Japan, and Korean hogwans pay for the flight.

They leave the country in the first place because there aren't enough jobs to go around.
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:
naturegirl321 wrote:
He wants to go to Canada, because he thinks that we can make a lot of money in a little time.


WTF!!!! Shocked Laughing

Almost half the EFL teachers at hogwans in Korea are Canadian university graduates. They're there because they can't pay for the flight to Japan, and Korean hogwans pay for the flight.

They leave the country in the first place because there aren't enough jobs to go around.


I agree here. How does he think he can make a lot of money quickly? Not legally anyways.
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, for the 12th. time - I went through the process as a US citizen with MA + 7 years experience at the time.

May I please emphasize one last time:


I WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED ON MY OWN QUALIFICATIONS. I WAS SPONSORED IN AS A DEPENDENT. MY SPOUSE WORKS IN A FIELD THAT HAPPENS TO BE AT THE TOP OF CANADA'S NEEDS LIST.

If I'd tried to get into Canada by myself, or if my spouse had different qualifications, we would have had NO CHANCE.
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koshechka



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:57 am    Post subject: vancouver Reply with quote

hello,
i don't want to interrupt but my situation is very similar to naturegirl's in that i am an american citizen, my husband is mexican, we have been living in chile and are now looking to move to canada, vancouver specifically. i have a few questions, one, spiral78, why do you say that it is difficult to get in being an american, i thought that as long as you had education, so many years and a job experience it was no sweat. does it really matter which country you are from? i know this sounds naive but bare with me. second thing, this one for vanica, where did you get the idea that we no longer have to pay 550 a piece for the application. i've just downloaded it and there it is in black and white.
finally, would a mexican architect (my husband) have better luck getting in than an american tefl teacher (myself)? i am getting worried now. and the wait time is around 2 years from what i gather, i think someone asked before. well, hope to hear from you soon,
koshechka
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