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SeasonedVet



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never had a run in such as the ones described here (and I don't want one either) I think that along with the stories that we have been reading here that there should be a little more information so that people who are unfamiliar with the situation can get some balance.

I also was not too familiar with the gomi situations as described here, and I have read about them a few times on this board.
One thing to note is that the rules differ from place to place. I live in a big city and in one part of the city where I have lived you put the garbage out anytime anway you like. No separating. I lived in another part of the same city where there was separating and times to put out the garbage (BUT no garbage police or watchpersons)

In more remote areas where people have More free time and are More community oriented you might find garbage police but along with the Bad points that we read, those community persons (according to the Japanese people I have questioned) also do alot of good in the community.

And it is noteworthy that foreigners are not the only targets of the garbage police and other kinds of community policing.
gaijinalways wrote:
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My Japanese wife had a run in with one, old lady


I actually heard my Japanese friend , who was thinking of moving into a new apartment, on seeing an old lady watching her as she viewed the apartment, say that she was worried about someone bothering her about putting out the garbage on the wrong day or playing music too loudly.
So maybe it's not a situation where foriegners are being targetted.

It depends on where you are ( big city or small town) and which part of the town or city you live in and the people who live in that community.
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Apsara



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We got a letter from our landlord this week (it went to everyone in the building) that someone had put a pair of sandals (unburnable) out with some shoeboxes on burnable garbage day- shock horror! (it wasn't me by the way).

The letter expressed extreme disappointment that someone would contravene the rules like this and pointed out that the penalty for this kind of misbehaviour could be eviction, as stated in the terms of our lease. Talk about overreacting, but at least I don't get an old lady returning my garbage to my genkan. Rolling Eyes
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JimDunlop2



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brooks wrote:
well Jim you live out in Tochigi, right? Sounds like they are behind the curve, up there.
I live in Kanagawa, and there are signs which state which days are for recycling and which ones are for garbage.

The city of Sagamihara has a website and information is posted in English about recycling, garbage, etc.

I assume cities of Tochigi has city websites but they may be in Japanese only.


Nope. Sorry -- not in Tochigi. (Had to look on a map to see where it was, actually)... Laughing
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alexcase



Joined: 26 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: Gomi control Reply with quote

It's all about control guys! By stopping you putting out your unburnable rubbish anytime but Saturday morning they can stop you staying out Fri night, stop you going away for a week, keep your permanently on edge, control your mind- just like a good old Japanese village community.
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Eva Pilot



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never had a problem with it. I put my rubbish out at various times, never been stopped or had it returned.

Does anyone else have to write their names on their garbage bags? The guy I replaced used to get complaints from the landlady because he didn't label his garbage bags.
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scorchio



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apsara wrote:
We got a letter from our landlord this week (it went to everyone in the building) that someone had put a pair of sandals (unburnable) out with some shoeboxes on burnable garbage day- shock horror! (it wasn't me by the way).

The letter expressed extreme disappointment that someone would contravene the rules like this and pointed out that the penalty for this kind of misbehaviour could be eviction, as stated in the terms of our lease. Talk about overreacting, but at least I don't get an old lady returning my garbage to my genkan. Rolling Eyes


Which category do sandals fit into then? They're not PET bottles, paper, glass, or big....Where do they go????????
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madeira



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old shoes and clothing are picked up every month or so in our area, and not in the usual garbage place. There are special days to recycle magazines, papers and books, too.

In Yokosuka, anyhow.

IF garbage rules are getting you down, renting a skip isn't that expensive. I paid 20,000 yen for one when I last moved. (We had just finished renovating, so we had a bunch of crap... including a huge old metal shed, bikes, paint containers.. dead radiators..) All gone.
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alexcase



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Gomi Reply with quote

Apart from the recycling thing, the best thing I can say about the different rubbish days is that it made me understand for the first time the scene in a Haruki Murakami novel where he goes off to secretly throw his rubbish away in a konbini bin before he leaves on a big case (anyone remember which book?)

I end up washing all my plastic so it doesn't smell in the week before it is collected. That can't be green can it- washing rubbish with all that water and detergent?
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Apsara



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scorchio, sandals would be "unburnable garbage" because they probably have synthetics in them that would release harmful gases into the air if burned. Where I live burnable garbage is collected twice a week, unburnable once, and recyclables once (not including PET bottles which I take to the conbini).

Eva Pilot, we don't have to name our gomi- no doubt that's so they can easily find any miscreants who are not separating their garbage properly in your area.

alexcase- apart from natto containers, I don't find the plastic garbage gets smelly. The burnable, yes. Food scraps from Friday are not smelling good come Tuesday, the next burnable garbage day, especially in summer. We have two balconies luckily, so one of them is designated for gomi- that way the apartment doesn't get stunk out.
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