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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 2:30 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the link. Lima doesn't take long at all between 12 and 15 months. |
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koshechka
Joined: 12 Feb 2005 Posts: 93 Location: santiago, chile for now
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject: still here |
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thanks for such interesting contributions. i have a few things to say. first of all, i wasn't saying that mexico is a terrible country to live in but it is not ideal in my perception. it is corrupt, monthly we would have problems with the water supply (in puebla, a big city mind you, maybe the third biggest if i am not mistaken), i would see drunk people sleeping on the street every sunday/monday, the public transportation system was crap (i don't believe in driving) well, i can go on but this is not the reason for my post.
by the way, chile is very nice in some respects, the only thing i really dislike about santiago is the pollution. my question is to canadashirley blue, or anyone else who might know something about this, if i get pregnant in the 3 months that i am waiting for the bc plan to kick in, could they consider it a pre-condition and not cover me when i am finally eligible? the new plan is this, husband gets a master's in ubc, i go there as his spouse, we have a baby, then apply to be permanent residents. the degree takes 3 years, plenty of time to decide if we like it or not, and to find jobs. how does this sound to all of you, a good plan? finally, some place else, i read that the transportation leaves more to be desired, for those of you who have been to vancouver, is this really so and why? aah, and does it really rain all the time?
thanks,
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: still here |
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koshechka wrote: |
if i get pregnant in the 3 months that i am waiting for the bc plan to kick in, could they consider it a pre-condition and not cover me when i am finally eligible? |
What's the BC plan? health care? |
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Vanica
Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 368 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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By BC plan, she means the provincial health care of British Columbia. I think the problem is the 3 month temporary health insurance policy you should have to pay for -- it will cover NOTHING having to do with pregnancy, even though you are paying for it. Short-term coverage will not cover pregnancy, either as a preexisting condition or if you become pregnant while on it. They specifically outlined that when I purchased insurance for our first three months in Quebec, saying that pregnancy is so expensive the costs would far surpass whatever you are paying them.
However, I think that your pregnancy will be covered by the province even during the first three months, although maybe not in BC. Quebec gives a lot of money and benefits to encourage childbirth. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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koshechka,
since you're applying from Santiago, it'll take between 19 and 32 months. You might as well get started now. Or come to Peru where it takes between 11 and 15 months.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/index.asp |
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Vanica
Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 368 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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For me, all the timelines were much shorter than what Canada announces. Everything came through more quickly than expected. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:22 am Post subject: |
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Vanica wrote: |
For me, all the timelines were much shorter than what Canada announces. Everything came through more quickly than expected. |
HOw long did it take you? Where did you file from? I've seen some places like Beijing that take nearly five years! HEre in Peru, I'm sure that it doesn't take so long since everyone here either goes to the USA or Spain. |
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Vanica
Joined: 31 Aug 2006 Posts: 368 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:45 am Post subject: |
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This website posts many people's timelines:
http://www.settlement.org/discuss/default.asp?CAT_ID=9
And you can ask your questions there, too. People there helped me a lot. It might be a government website so careful what you say  |
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chan_konabe

Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 24 Location: British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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if i get pregnant in the 3 months that i am waiting for the bc plan to kick in, could they consider it a pre-condition and not cover me when i am finally eligible? |
The BC health plan is called the Medical Services Plan (MSP). You can find a link to the site, including a helpful FAQ here. You shouldn't worry about becoming pregnant during the 3-month waiting period only to be denied coverage for pregnancy in the future. The BC health care system doesn't work like that. When the MSP coverage kicks in, they'll treat you just the same as everyone else. More importantly, however, most family doctors and obstetricians don't even accept visits from pregnant woment until at least the 12th week because of the high chance of miscarriage at the start of pregnancy. This would pretty much cover the span of the 3-month waiting period anyway. |
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koshechka
Joined: 12 Feb 2005 Posts: 93 Location: santiago, chile for now
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:50 pm Post subject: aha |
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so, they don't accept patients until the 12th week? strange. yes, vanica, i saw that the private insurance doesn't cover pregnancy. but, how much attention will i actually need anyway? maybe i'll wait all the same. and naturegirl, we are no longer planning to come in as skilled workers. rather, we would enter on my husband's student visa and try to change that status from inside. how difficult would this be? also, can someone share with me some thoughts on the state of public transportation in vancouver, i don't drive and don't really plan to learn. would i be able to walk and/or use the bus to get to most places? how about the costs, what would an electricity, water etc. bills look like?
thank you all so much,
koshechka |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 9041 Location: home sweet home
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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sounds like a good idea. Studying seems like a good way to go. Not an option for us becuase of the high costs of degrees there and the fact that my husband would have to take a year or so of English language.
BUt good luck to you. When are you planning on going? |
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chan_konabe

Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 24 Location: British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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would i be able to walk and/or use the bus to get to most places? how about the costs, what would an electricity, water etc. bills look like?
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For price ranges of suites and apartments, check out the listings on Craigslist Vancouver. Suites usually include basic utilities such as electricity, heat and water. Apartments usually include heat and hot water, with electricity being your responsibility. The price varies on how much you use, of course, but expect to pay around $30 - $50 per month. Of course, phones, Internet and cable TV would be extra. Public transit in Vancouver is excellent. You'll have no problem getting around without a car. Monthly transit passes range from $69-$130 depending on the distance you're commuting.
I happen to know about that 12th week visit because my wife is pregnant and expecting later this summer. There isn't really much for a doctor to do early in pregnancy except confirm it and take a patient medical history. All of the other tests (blood, triple screen, heart beat, ultrasound, etc...) all happen later. |
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koshechka
Joined: 12 Feb 2005 Posts: 93 Location: santiago, chile for now
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:31 pm Post subject: medical insurance |
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thanks chan_konabe, your comments are having a very positive effect on our plans the bit about public transportation was very encouraging since i cannot live in a place where i would need a car to get to a supermarket or a library. and congratulations on your baby in the making.
i have some general questions, if you don't mind. first, how does the msp work exactly? i saw somewhere else that the wait time might be very long and that if you don't already have a general doctor, it is very difficult to get an appointment to see one, is this true? it's not possible to call based on some list and make an appointment? the same for a gynecologist. also, how bad is the problem of homelessness? is it like in any large city (i grew up in ny for example) or is it more like in san francisco where the homeless people seem to dominate at times? finally, how are the winters in vancouver? i saw that it wasn't too cold but that it rains a lot, does this seem depressing or is it like a little drizzle?
well, thanks so much to you and anyone else who has been to vancouver and actually has an idea of what things are like there (and if you haven't been there but are contributing, thanks to you as well)
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chan_konabe

Joined: 23 Jun 2006 Posts: 24 Location: British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:39 am Post subject: |
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For MSP, you'll pay a monthly or yearly fee. If your family income falls below a certain level, you can apply for Premium Assistance. This will reduce your payments to an affordable level. Apply for MSP as soon as you enter BC. When I sponsored my wife for PR a few years ago, she applied the day of her arrival and it took 6 weeks for her to receive her BC CareCard with her provincial health number. If you're sick and would like to see a doctor, just go to a medical clinic and wait in line. Depending on the time of day, a doctor could see you anywhere from 5 to 45 min. However, those long wait times that you've read about have more to do with specialist doctors, such as cardiologists. You'll have to make appointments to see those and that could be short or long depending on your situation. I don't know about gynecologists however.
Homelessness is a visible problem in Vancouver and a lot of people from other countries are surprised to see it here. I grew up here so I'm used to it. There is a lot of panhandling, but most aren't aggressive with it. Property crime such as theft and car break-ins are growing problem. |
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MELEE

Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Posts: 2583 Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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chan_konabe wrote: |
I happen to know about that 12th week visit because my wife is pregnant and expecting later this summer. There isn't really much for a doctor to do early in pregnancy except confirm it and take a patient medical history. All of the other tests (blood, triple screen, heart beat, ultrasound, etc...) all happen later. |
Congratulations on the new addition to your family! I just wanted to let you know that the "not much a doctor can do" sound like a justification for cutting costs to me. I had my first ultrasound at 5 weeks pregnant and good thing--we found out good and early that I was carrying twins. You can see the heart beats sometime between 5 and 7 weeks with a good ultrasound machine. Knowing that in the first trimester meant I was able to adequately modify my diet and make sure I got the right amount of all the necessiarly nuitriants vital for proper development. My girls were born at 8 months (when my body couldn't carry them anymore) and they were ready, the needed no special care. When twins are not diagnoised until the 20th week of pregnancy, they usually need to be in Neonatal Intensive Care for at least two weeks after birth because they did not get off to the proper start. There are also a number of tests the mother should have concerning her health. Ideally that is done preconception, but most women do not go to preconception appointments so they should be done as soon as pregnacy is confirmed.
I wish you both a happy and healthy pregnancy! Take care of that little one.
Cheers,
Melissa |
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