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Worldly

Joined: 04 Dec 2006 Posts: 74 Location: The Cosmos
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Do you think schools really care about quality education ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD? If your answer is yes, you are in the wrooooooong business. |
Rarely have I read an opinion that is so pessimistic......especially if the OP is an educator.
Never, in the history of mankind, has QUALITY education been more important to:
(1) students, that need to establish professional or vocational competency in an extremely complex workplace environment, and retain their competence, over the long term, via a LIFETIME of learning.
(2) developing nations, that will remain uncompetitive and/or disadvantaged in a globalized economy if they ignore the critical importance of education.
(3) developed nations, that will quickly lose their competitive advantage if they minimize the importance of upgrading the quality of education, their institutions, and, most importantly, the quality of their educators.
Yes, there are countless institutions, worldwide, that are aware of the importance of education, and TRULY CARE! I'm sorry if you've never been to one of them, or had the honor to work for one. |
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SnoopBot
Joined: 21 Jun 2007 Posts: 740 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:14 am Post subject: |
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| Worldly wrote: |
| FuzzX wrote: |
| Do you think schools really care about quality education ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD? If your answer is yes, you are in the wrooooooong business. |
Rarely have I read an opinion that is so pessimistic......especially if the OP is an educator.
Never, in the history of mankind, has QUALITY education been more important to:
(1) students, that need to establish professional or vocational competency in an extremely complex workplace environment, and retain their competence, over the long term, via a LIFETIME of learning.
(2) developing nations, that will remain uncompetitive and/or disadvantaged in a globalized economy if they ignore the critical importance of education.
(3) developed nations, that will quickly lose their competitive advantage if they minimize the importance of upgrading the quality of education, their institutions, and, most importantly, the quality of their educators.
Yes, there are countless institutions, worldwide, that are aware of the importance of education, and TRULY CARE! I'm sorry if you've never been to one of them, or had the honor to work for one. |
This is the way it is supposed to work and I feel it did work well in the USA years ago. Now I'm not so sure in some places. China is not any different.
Now, education has become a business and money has replaced ethics in many institutions.
Often teachers find themselves caught between these 5 levels
1. A rich school that has students that lack both respect or ambition. Often their parents money/power is a bigger factor in life success than education. They know it and you must pass Ding A Dong because his daddy is a big shot. Ding A Dong is disruptive and should not pass.
2. Poor students that lack materials and quality of education due to conditions at the schools. Maybe eager and attentive but materials are a luxury. Teacher pay here drives most away.
3. Middle road schools that think education should be a business model, since the product is based on money and other benchmarks, learning sometimes falls from the top priority. $$$ comes first
4. Schools that expect the teachers to be the parents or Big Brother to their students, learning is secondary to discipline and authoritarian or agenda driven instruction.
5. Well-balanced schools- the ones your talking about that hopefully, most teachers find themselves working at. Sometimes difficult to find in the ESL world. |
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arioch36
Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 3589
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:04 am Post subject: |
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I think their is a fine line, a balance that needs to be walked between academic responsibility and fiscal responsibility. I think England/ Britain? definitely crossed that line when it developed a plan to have separate classes for foreign students who pay money but can not keep up with the academics of the normal classes. In America we call these remedial classes, and the student still has to eventually take and pass the real cours.
Virtually every teacher I know in America takes education very seriously. But as graduate programs were introduced in the 70's strictly for those wishing to pursue a MA in Education Administration (no teaching experience needed), a serious gap was created, with each side coming to despise the other.
My Grandfather was the old breed, teacher first, then principal. Now adays how many school leaders spent a serious amount of time teaching. Actually this trend was started by the "great educator Dewey, who wanted to revolutioize the American education system around the early 1900's. He was a total flop as a teacher. When he ran a school, the school had to close down. He never took input from actual teachers, but decided that schools need to focus on teach PC that would create an evolved student. Oh well,
Back to the thread, as I said earlier, if you ask Chines teachers in their 40's or 50's, they will tell you that most of the leaders of the schools in China have no experience teaching, but that being a school leader was considered a plum job that you didn't have to work hard at, have your own private driver, not need to pay for restaurant bills, lots of leisure time |
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