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Ex-President Fox's new book
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And I'd like to raise my glass (and my eyebrows) . I agree that a President who can levitate is an asset, cowboy boots and all! Cool Salud!


Do you remember the Yogic Flyers pf the Natural Law Party running for parliament in Canada in the 90's?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John you're forgetting that that speech came WEEKS after denying that he had been involved with her. He got caught and had to come clean, it would have been much better to honest from the get go.


Samantha wrote:
melee wrote:
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But a president should be able to raise above his (or her!) class interests. A president should not be willing to abandon the common good for the pursuit of profit. (Fox and Bush have more in common than cowboy boots!)


And I'd like to raise my glass (and my eyebrows) . I agree that a President who can levitate is an asset, cowboy boots and all! Cool Salud!


I'm cheeky and you ask me to be serious, I answer seriously and you go all cheeky--There's just no point....
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked I can honestly say I somehow missed this! Too funny.....

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One of its more amazing plans for Canada was to create in Ottawa "A Group for a Government," which will consist of 10,000 Yogic Flyers, who by floating in the air will somehow "generate an indomitable influence of coherence, positivity, and harmony in Canadian national consciousness. This will prevent negative trends within society and protect the nation against destructive influences from beyond our borders.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the transcript of the Clinton grand jury proceedings.

http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/transcr.htm

Pretty lame stuff.
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samantha wrote:
Shocked I can honestly say I somehow missed this! Too funny.....

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One of its more amazing plans for Canada was to create in Ottawa "A Group for a Government," which will consist of 10,000 Yogic Flyers, who by floating in the air will somehow "generate an indomitable influence of coherence, positivity, and harmony in Canadian national consciousness. This will prevent negative trends within society and protect the nation against destructive influences from beyond our borders.


In some Ottawa Air Farce command center, in an alternate universe...

"Sir, Greenlandish fisherman are threatening our cod. Situation critical"

"Alert the Yogic Flyers!"

That would be a sight to behold...imagine our enemies (um, the Danish?) facing 10,000 flying MPs off the coast of Baffin Island. France would surrender immediately and we'd get Greenland.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MELEE wrote:
WEEKS after denying that he had been involved with her. He got caught and had to come clean, it would have been much better to honest from the get go.




....he wasn't allowed to say anything because of the Independent Counsel. and no President, VP, pastor, congressman, or for that matter anyone on this planet, would be honest right away. just like Nixon wasn't allowed to say anything for months, and didn't fully give his resignation until 2 years after.

i really thought he was pretty honest about this. what i'd really like to know about was his early political career with Whitewater, Arkansas, and the 100+ people that have mysteriously disappeared that were somehow involved with him (e.g. Ron Brown's plane)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johninmaine wrote:

i really thought he was pretty honest about this. what i'd really like to know about was his early political career with Whitewater, Arkansas, and the 100+ people that have mysteriously disappeared that were somehow involved with him (e.g. Ron Brown's plane)


Yes, it kind of seemed like the whole "Monicagate" was intentional to finally be done with the "whitewatergate".

Back to Mexico and rising above class interests, the amount Mr. and Mrs. Fox's weath increased during their term is sickening. As long as the office is covented as a way to increase personal wealth, we will never get a good president--no matter what party he or she is from.
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Back to Mexico and rising above class interests, the amount Mr. and Mrs. Fox's weath increased during their term is sickening. As long as the office is covented as a way to increase personal wealth, we will never get a good president--no matter what party he or she is from.


I haven't kept upon this, but isn't it still under investigation?

Would he not still earn from stock ownership and investments he had before becoming president?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:

I haven't kept upon this, but isn't still under investigation?

Would he not still earn from stock ownership and investments he had before becoming president?


Yes, of course, but it looks like the investigation is turning WAY more money that can be accounted for that way.

It also seems as if he was hiding wealth before hand--not just to evade taxes, but to qualify for agricultural aid programs for his ranch! Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if he broke the law, before, during, or after his term in office, then he should pay the price.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only evidence I've seen so far is

A Jaguar
A Wrangler Jeep
A 4 Wheel motorcycle
and a refurbished ranch

...all easily possible on a presidential salary and pension (which I believe is bigger than the salary). Add to that, advances on a book and the lecture circuit (both of which are perfectly acceptable for a man of his experience), what's the problem?

Methinks the politics of jealousy rears its ugly head.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mexican presidents earn 200,000 pesos a month I think I read once.

They also used to earn 50 us cents for each barrel of oil sold. Zedillo stopped that practice I think.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wasn't Fox's second wife, Marta, an English teacher in Leon, GTO? That's what my son heard in Guanajuato city, and what the bartender in San Cristobal told us.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="MELEE

Yes, it kind of seemed like the whole "Monicagate" was intentional to finally be done with the "whitewatergate".

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....yes, agree 100%. Clinton was always the "Master of Diversion"

Clinton Body Count:
http://www.jeremiahproject.com/prophecy/clintbodycnt.html

here are some 50+ people that "mysteriously" died that are associated with Clinton

??/??/86 1.) Russell Welch, an Arkansas State Police Investigator,
was stricken with what his doctor called "military-grade"
anthrax poisoning during his probe of Mena drug operations.
Welsh did recover, thanks to a very astute doctor.

??/??/86 2.) Alder Berriman (Barry) Seal, the head of the cocaine
smuggling operation at Mena airport, was murdered.

08/23/87 3.) Kevin Ives, a teenager who lived near Mena, AR, was run
over by a train close to Mena. First ruled a suicide, a lat-
er autopsy showed he was murdered before he was run over by
the train. He may have gotten too curious about air drops he
had seen in the nearby countryside.

08/23/87 4.) Don Henry, a friend of Kevin Ives, was also run over by
the train on the same night. His death was initially ruled
a suicide, too, but a later autopsy showed he was also mur-
dered before he was run over by the train.

04/??/88 5.) Keith Coney, an individual who claimed to have informa-
tion about the deaths of Kevin Ives and Don Henry, was flee-
ing an attacker on his motorcycle, when he slammed into the
back of a truck. Police ruled it a "traffic fatality".

11/??/88 6.) Keith McKaskle, another person who claimed to have in-
formation about the Ives-Henry murders, was brutally stabbed
to death in his home. He knew someone was after him so he
had said goodbye to his friends and family.

01/??/89 7.) Gregory Collins, another person who claimed to have in-
formation about the Ives-Henry murders, died from a shotgun
blast in the face.

04/??/89 8.) Jeff Rhodes, another person who claimed to have informa-
tion about the Ives-Henry murders, was shot in the head. His
burned body was found in the city dump, with his hands, feet,
and head partially severed.

???????? 9.) Richard Winters, another person who claimed to have in-
formation about the Ives-Henry murders, was killed by a man
using a sawed-off shotgun.

???????? 10.) Jordan Ketelson, another person who claimed to have in-
formation about the Ives-Henry murders, died of a shotgun
blast to the head.

A total of six individuals that claimed to have information
about the Ives-Henry murders ended up being murdered them-
selves. Not one arrest was ever made with regard to these
murders or the "activities" at Mena. It is highly unlikely
that this could have occurred without the cooperation of
the authorities.

08/10/91 11.) Danny Casolaro, a reporter who was investigating sever-
al of the Clinton Scandals, was found dead in the bathtub of
a hotel room in West Virginia, with his wrists slit. He had
earlier warned his family that his life was in danger and if
he was found dead due to an apparent accident or suicide,
not to believe it.

??/??/92 12.) Sally Perdue, one of Clinton's "regulars", was offered
a $60,000/year federal job to keep her mouth shut; or she
would have her legs broken. When she did come forward, she
received a series of threats; but luckily for her, the Amer-
ican press mostly ignored her.

06/26/92 13.) Gary Johnson, an attorney who lived next door to
Gennifer Flowers, was beaten severely and left for dead by two
thugs who broke into his apartment. It seems he had video-
taped some of Clinton's "visits" and had mentioned the exis-
tence of the tapes to other people. The intruders made sure
THEY TOOK THE "CLINTON-FLOWERS" TAPES after they finished
the beating.

07/20/92 14.) C. Victor Raiser II, the co-chairman of Clinton's
presidential campaign finance committee, was killed in a plane
crash near Anchorage, AK, in good weather. With his inside
knowledge of the Clinton operation, he had become disillu-
sioned by what he had seen and thus became a potential lia-
bility.

(There are reported to be several ways for hit-men to rig
small aircraft to crash so that they appear to be accidents.)

07/20/92 15.) Montgomery Raiser, the son of C. Victor Raiser, died in
the plane crash with his father.

05/19/93 16.) John A. Wilson, a Washington, D.C. councilman, "hung
himself". He allegedly knew a lot about Clinton and was re-
portedly going to start talking before his death made that
impossible.

07/20/93 17.) Vince Foster, a former partner in the Rose Law firm and
White House aide, was found dead in Fort Marcy Park. It was
ruled a suicide, but this conclusion does NOT square with
the testimony from the man who found the body (the Confiden-
tial Witness) or much of the forensic evidence.

07/23/93 18.) Paul Wilcher, an attorney, was found dead in his
Washington, D.C. home. The coroner either could not find or
did not report the cause of death. At the time of his death,
Wilcher was investigating gun-running and the drug business
in Mena, AR. Shortly before his death he wrote a 105-page
letter to Attorney General Janet Reno describing evidence
that he allegedly had concerning Mena. The first page of his
letter stated in part; "The lives of key participants, other
witnesses, and even myself, are now in grave danger as a re-
sult of my passing this information on to you. If you let
this information fall into the hands of the wrong persons...
some or all of those who know the truth ...could well be si-
lenced in the very near future."

08/15/93 19.) Jon Walker, an investigator for the Resolution Trust
Corporation (RTC), mysteriously "fell" to his death from
Lincoln Towers, in Arlington, VA. In March 1992, Walker con-
tacted the Kansas City RTC office for information concerning
the ties between Whitewater and the Clintons. He reportedly
was looking into a 50 million dollar transfer from an RTC
fund in Chicago to Madison Guaranty Savings & Loan to cover
up a 47 million dollar embezzlement.

09/26/93 20.) Jerry Parks, the owner of a security firm that provided
security for Clinton's presidential campaign, was gunned
down, assassination style, in Little Rock. The Clinton cam-
paign had failed to settle an outstanding debt to Parks for
$81,000 at the time of his death. Mr. Parks, had compiled
detailed records of Clinton's sexual affairs and his attend-
ance at "drug parties". Parks' wife said her husband threat-
ened to go public with his information if Clinton did not
pay the bill. Parks' home was broken into only hours before
he was murdered. THE ONLY THING TAKEN FROM HIS HOME WAS THE
DOCUMENTATION HE HAD ON CLINTON'S "ACTIVITIES".

11/30/93 21.) Ed Willey, the manager of the Clinton presidential
campaign finance committee, died of a "self-inflicted" gunshot
wound. He was seen handling briefcases full of cash during
the campaign.

02/??/94 22.) L.J. Davis, a veteran journalist, was knocked uncon-
scious in a Little Rock hotel. Pages were stolen from his
notebook that contained information on the inner workings of
the Rose law firm. He later received threats to back off the
story.

03/01/94 23.) Herschel Friday, a member of the Clinton presidential
campaign finance committee, was killed when his plane
crashed as he approached his private landing strip near his
Arkansas home, in a light drizzle.

03/03/94 24.) Dr. Ronald Rogers, a dentist from Royal, AR, was killed
when his twin-engine Cessna crashed near Lawton, OK, in
clear weather. He was on his way to see Ambrose Evans-
Pritchard, a reporter from the "London Sunday Telegraph", to
reveal some "dirt" on Clinton.

05/11/94 25.) Kathy Ferguson, the ex-wife of Arkansas State Trooper
Danny Ferguson, was found dead with a gunshot wound to the
head, in Sherwood, AR. The right-handed Ferguson supposedly
shot herself behind the left ear. It was labeled a suicide
even though much of the forensic evidence does not support
this finding. She died five days after her ex-husband, was
named a co-conspirator in the Paula Jones case.

Kathy had told friends that Clinton had sexually harassed
her in a manner similar to that reported by Paula Jones. She
purportedly had knowledge of Clinton's "regulars" and often
talked about how Clinton had gotten Danny to bring women to
him and stand watch while they had sex. Part of Danny's job
was to make sure that each woman was ready and willing when
she and Clinton got together. Kathy said she heard that Clin-
ton was really mad when Paula Jones wouldn't "put out".

06/12/94 26.) Bill Shelton, an Arkansas police officer and boyfriend
of Kathy Ferguson at the time of her death, was found dead
of a gunshot wound to the head, in Sherwood, AR. He was shot
behind the ear which is usually the sign of an execution.
His death was also labeled a suicide. Shelton was highly
critical of the conclusion of local police that Kathy had
committed suicide and he aired his complaints widely.

06/23/94 27.) Stanley Huggins, a partner in a Memphis law firm, was
found dead in Delaware at age 46. Huggins headed a 1987 ex-
amination into the loan practices of Madison Savings & Loan.
He produced a 300-400 page report that has never been made
public.

10/31/94 28.) Florence Martin, an accountant who had worked as a
subcontractor for the CIA, was found dead in Mabell, TX, the
victim of three gunshot wounds to the head. She had the doc-
uments and paperwork as well as the pin number to an account
that had been set up in the name of Barry Seal for $1.46
million dollars at the Fuji Bank in the Cayman Islands. Fol-
lowing her death the money was moved to the Guaranty Bank in
the Caymen Islands and then was transferred from that bank
to another bank believed to be in the Virgin Islands.

Ongoing 29.) Dennis Patrick, a Court Clerk in Kentucky, has had at
least four documented attempts on his life. Lasater & Co., a
Little Rock brokerage firm owned by Dan Lasater, a FOB and
convicted cocaine dealer, laundered millions of dollars
through Patrick's account at Lasater, without his knowledge.
Patrick is currently in hiding.

Ongoing 30.) A black woman, who is the manager of a Little Rock Mc-
Donald's restaurant, and one of the seven or so Clinton
"regulars", is frightened for her life after confirming that
Clinton has an extremely small *beep*. (Gennifer Flowers,
Paula Jones and others have also independently corroborated
this distinguishing characteristic of Clinton's anatomy.)

Ongoing 31.) Larry Nichols, a former official of the ADFA and author
of "The Clinton Chronicles", was apparently poisoned in
November 1994. On a recent TV show Nichols said, "I guess
they will have to try again." He also stated that, "Bill
Clinton deals in margins" ..(paraphrasing)... he will decide
whether it will result in more problems for Nichols to die
suddenly vs. risk having him testify if the Republicans gain
control of the Senate."
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