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Teacher Arrested in Sudan
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flyer



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how mature is Sudan?

grow up!
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QatarChic



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disgusting. You can let them know how you feel. I have.

http://sudan-embassy.co.uk/en/component/option,com_contact/ampItemid,3/
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Dedicated



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems there was no intention to offend Islamic sensibilities or defame the honour and name of the prophet Mohammed.

It was the children who named the bear!
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basiltherat



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone seriously think this is all about religious naivity ? Surely, it's all political. The UK has political issues with Sudan. I think this is just telling UK politicians "Don't fack with us !", however absurd it all is.
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soapdodger



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:06 am    Post subject: Been there, seen the t-shirt Reply with quote

Yes Sudan has issues with Britain having been a colony. One of the funniest t-shirts I've ever seen was being worn by an aid worker I saw there. It said " VSO - The Empire Strikes Back!"
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QatarChic



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bottom line is this. One Brit makes a naive mistake and is punished very harshly. Two Brits leave their children unattended and become international celebrities.

We live in a crazy world.
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crewmeal



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was 6 my Mum bought me a gollywog and called I called it Bertie. That didn't insult any religious group. Infact she saved up the labels off a Company's jar of marmalade and I got a free metal golliwog badge.

http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/golliwog/


Infact back in those days no one ever took offense and if my memory serves me correctly didn't Agatha Christie write a novel entitled 'Ten little *beep*'?
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soapdodger



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stupid injustices happen everywhere. Brits and Americans would do well to look at what goes on at home. All the noise is because it's MUSLIMS. A teacher gets a short sentence for something daft, world outcry - Israeli soldiers shoot a TV journalist dead and say "Do we care?" not a sound.
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SocratesSon2



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah but nobody like TV journalists.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crewmeal wrote:
When I was 6 my Mum bought me a gollywog and called I called it Bertie. That didn't insult any religious group. Infact she saved up the labels off a Company's jar of marmalade and I got a free metal golliwog badge.

http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/golliwog/


Infact back in those days no one ever took offense and if my memory serves me correctly didn't Agatha Christie write a novel entitled 'Ten little *beep*'?


Gollywogs. How very British. Perhaps that's what the Sudanese resent... the British types who still think "the wogs begin at Calais".
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Guy Courchesne



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Over a teddy bear. The Danish cartoon uproar was one thing, but this is ridiculous now.
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coffeedrinker



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's pretty disturbing.

I think in a time like today when there are very real issues going on - ones that do merit some sort of response (in the form of debate or something, as opposed to lashes or executions) - so many people would take this one to such an extreme level. It's hard to see how it helps any cause for so many people to react like this.

*edit* in case it's not clear, I am in fact referring to the calls for execution and protests as disturbing...the fact that I don't think a whole "culture" (ie "these countries" generally or however it is phrased) should be judged by an extreme event doesn't mean I am wholly lacking any sense.


Last edited by coffeedrinker on Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:28 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Pollux



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think she should receive 40 lashes.

Having said that I think we should think twice where we are willing to live and work. I always wonder what teachers talk about in their classes in these muslim countries. Family? Shopping? Weather?
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coffeedrinker



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just so it gets said, I have worked with a large number of Muslim students who talk about whatever. Not in Sudan obviously.
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tedkarma



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For people who think this isn't a real problem, there are now calls for her execution.

From:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071130/ap_on_re_af/sudan_british_teacher

Quote:
KHARTOUM, Sudan - Thousands of Sudanese, many armed with clubs and knives, rallied Friday in a central square and demanded the execution of a British teacher convicted of insulting Islam for allowing her students to name a teddy bear "Muhammad."...
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