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Imdramayu
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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Location: South Korea
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 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:36 pm Post subject: Maid is still here |
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The maid is still with us....we're still valiently hoping to bring her into the Kingdom. It may turn out to be a futile attempt but it's worth the trip to Acton. She's a keeper.
Not only am I trying to bring a housemaid into KSA, I want to bring my car in also (not to mention my houseplants).
What do you think? Am I over-ambitious? |
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scot47
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| That depends on the employer. With some it is "Here in KSA today - gone tomorrow." |
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windstar
Joined: 22 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| As for cars, I believe, you can easily transfer your car, assuming you are taking it from another GCC country. One of our colleagues from Oman moved to SA. He transferred the plate to SA afterwards. |
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007
Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| baedaebok wrote: |
The maid is still with us....we're still valiently hoping to bring her into the Kingdom. It may turn out to be a futile attempt but it's worth the trip to Acton. She's a keeper.
Not only am I trying to bring a housemaid into KSA, I want to bring my car in also .. |
Not all foreigners are allowed to bring maids with them to the magic kingdom. It is better to check with the SA embassy in your country of residence. I know some foreigner have been refused to bring maid into the magic kingdom.
You can bring your car to the magic kingdom, but you have to pay a custom tax, depending on the age of the car, so that you can change the plates into Saudi one. And you cannot do this until you get your Iqama.
| sheikh radlinrol wrote: |
| Agreed, but isn't it axiomatic for a person with religious beliefs to consider their faith to be the default one? After all, if you believe that there is one God and that he created us then it follows that you believe that non-believers have strayed from the the true path and that when you get back on track you are ''reverting'' rather ''converting''. |
| baedaaebok wrote: |
The religion of my parents (not Islam) doesn't believe that all people are born as believers in that religion. In fact, people must make a concious decision to cross over that line and embrace that religion.
If I'm not mistaken, of the monotheistic religions, isn't Islam the only one that holds all people are born Muslims (but some fall away and follow other paths). |
A hadith (saying of the Prophet) of Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) best explains it. The Prophet said: �Every people is born from their mothers as a result of creation. Later his mother and father make him a Jew, a Christian and (or) a Zoroastrian. If his mother and father are Muslims, then he becomes a Muslim too.�. With these words, the Prophet emphasized that all people are born with purity and chastity, or Allah creates every human being as an innocent individual. Naturally, a person who was born as a result of creation forms and develops his religious and moral personality in accordance with the education, culture and discipline given particularly by his family. The personality development of an individual is mostly complete by adolescence. For that reason, Islam exempts persons who have not reached adolescence from responsibility advocating �liability with proposal.� Therefore as the Prophet pointed out, Islam regards all children�not just the children who were born in a certain society�as pure, chaste and innocent, the true form created by Allah.
"Unlike Islam, mankind is defined as �the creation captive to sin and death from birth� in some religions such as Christianity. Although Islam�s view asserts the innocence/freedom from sin and free will, Christianity supports the idea of innate human addiction to sin from birth. This theological difference lays the foundation of the notably different approaches of both religions on every viewpoint towards mankind. Christian thought argues that mankind, �the captive of sin and death inherited from Adam�, can break away from this captivity by believing in the holy savior son, Jesus Christ. Consequently, Christianity purports to save mankind from this captivity, which is �a part his natural personality�, through acceptance of the theological model that it sets forth. However, Christianity, on the other hand, somehow attributes the evil deeds and acts of violence to the divine will in Adam�s personality by explaining that mankind�s captivity in such things results from the spreading of Adam�s heritage to all mankind." |
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lall
Joined: 30 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:34 pm Post subject: Treatise |
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Nice treatise, 007!
However, I'd rather you'd realise that most souls here would not be interested in a treatise on whatever you aim to dispense. No offence, sadiq!
A bit of unsolicited advice: Touch on whatever you want to say briefly and then, let go, even if you are flamed.
By the way, why do you let yourself be baited? And then ignored?
To concede a point, here I am baited, hook, line and by that heavy piece of lead, by your post.
Goes to show that, "Love 'im or 'ate 'im, you just can't ignore 'im".
Sorry, you folks who think that 007 is a troll, imho, he isn't. That's what freedom of speech is all about, isn't it?
Regards,
Lall. |
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redeyes
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Imdramayu
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:29 am Post subject: Driving in my car! |
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Windstar, did your colleague from Oman drive his car into KSA and leave it there, fly out, and come back and register it and get plates? Did he do this before he got his igama (or after)? Can I only register a car in KSA after I get an iqama.
I'm hoping to do this: drive it into KSA in July, leave it there and fly out, and come back in September and register it. What other options are tehre? I need to take it out of Qatar when my residency ends in July. So, I'm hoping to drive it to KSA and register it there (after paying the customs tax). |
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007
Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:02 am Post subject: Re: Driving in my car! |
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| baedaebok wrote: |
| I'm hoping to do this: drive it into KSA in July, leave it there and fly out, and come back in September and register it. What other options are tehre? I need to take it out of Qatar when my residency ends in July. So, I'm hoping to drive it to KSA and register it there (after paying the customs tax). |
It will depends on the type of your Saudi visa when you enter first time to the magic kingdom. During fly out from Saudi, and depending on the type of your exit/re-rentry visa, you might face problems in the police check in the Saudi airport, especially if your Qatari car is registred in your passport number, then they might ask you about it! This is a possibilty, as I said it will depends on the type of your Saudi visa!
And you cannot register a car in your name until you get an Iqama! Everything is related to Iqama, from driving license to car registration to traffic penalties. And you cannot get an exit/re-entry visa if you committed a traffic offence which will be registred on your Iqama number!!!
| lall wrote: |
| However, I'd rather you'd realise that most souls here would not be interested in a treatise on whatever you aim to dispense. No offence, sadiq! |
Dear sadiq,
No offence at all, let the souls of this forum sleep in peace and harmony, no offence!
| lall wrote: |
| To concede a point, here I am baited, hook, line and by that heavy piece of lead, by your post. |
No offence lall. Indian people are my friends, and they lie in the spirit of tolerance, give-and-take and a composition of cultures that can be compared to a garden of flowers.
Offences will come, but don�t take the offence, don�t take the bait of Satan and fall into his trap!! If offence comes to you via malicious intent, through evil and harmful behavior, rejection, betrayal, or another�s sin, leave the judging up to God.
Peace be with you. |
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lall
Joined: 30 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:48 am Post subject: Peace |
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| 007 wrote: |
| Peace be with you. |
And also with you, 007.
Anyway, I just couldn't resist the following:
| 007 wrote: |
| No offence lall. Indian people are my friends, and they lie in the spirit of tolerance, give-and-take and a composition of cultures that can be compared to a garden of flowers. |
They lie?  . That's the truth?
Hey 007,
In the spirit of tolerance and give-and-take, please note that the above is only for some light-hearted banter.
Regards,
Lall. |
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windstar
Joined: 22 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| He drove his car from Oman to KSA and he also had a long payment plan in Oman. Yet, he came back and paid in full. Then he drove for a while in KSA until he had his iqama. He said he paid a minimal amount of money (it was a brand new toyota) to transfer the car. I hope it helps. If you need more information, i can contact and ask him. |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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Ah... there is a factor to check into... age of car. Most GCC countries have a limit on the age of cars that they allow to be imported.
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Imdramayu
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:40 pm Post subject: Driving...driving...driving |
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VS, my car is 2006 so it should be young enough to enter KSA. Isn't three years old the cut-off.
From Windstar's and 007's comments, it seems this scenario may be possible. I can drive the car into KSA, leave it there, fly out in July, return in late August, drive around until I get the igama, then register the car with the new iqama.
The question is: how long can I drive the car in KSA before registering it with my new iqama? How long might this temporary driving arrangement period be?
Yeah, Windstar, could you ask your colleague about how he did it?
I don't know the visa type I'll be receiving. Are there different kinds? I thought there was only one kind of work visa. |
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007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: Driving...driving...driving |
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| baedaebok wrote: |
| The question is: how long can I drive the car in KSA before registering it with my new iqama? How long might this temporary driving arrangement period be? |
I think they will give you a 'temporary' plates, usually are called 'custom or transit plates' until you get your Iqama, and then the plates will be replaced by official ones. Also, if you do not hold a Saudi driving license, and after getting your Iqama you cannot use foreign driving license to drive in the magic kingdom, you need to convert it into a Saudi one if it is from recognized Western countries. |
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windstar
Joined: 22 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:18 am Post subject: |
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He was one of TEFLers, started working at one of the King something universities. He did not have any problems and that is our intention too, to take our car to KSA this summer.
My assumption is that, since i have omani drivers licence, i can drive in ksa with omani plates on. One thing I know they ask you to pay 70 or so rials for insurance purposes. |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:28 am Post subject: |
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My experience moving a car seems to be quite different. I was not allowed to remove the car from Kuwait without getting export plates. Oman did not allow me to drive with either my UAE or Kuwait license under any circumstance. I was told that only a national could use a GCC license legally in another GCC country. (except on a tourist visit)
That said, my moving company managed to get my car tagged and titled within days, while I was still on my tourist visa before the labor card came through.
Be careful about 'assuming'
... just saying... YMMV...
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