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mapache
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| Don't give your passport to anyone including la migra. It's against international law. Keep asking for higher bosses until you find one who obeys the law. |
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MO39
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A word of warning to any newbies.
Never hand over your passport to anyone. It isn't required by anyone - least of all an employer, which I have heard of happening. |
What about handing over my passport and FM-T to the lawyer who's getting me my FM3? |
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Samantha
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 2:29 am Post subject: |
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| Copies of your documents should be fine for what he needs them for. The originals should always be in your possession. |
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Dragonlady
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Phil_K
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Location: A World of my Own
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| MO39 wrote: |
| Phil_K wrote: |
A word of warning to any newbies.
Never hand over your passport to anyone. It isn't required by anyone - least of all an employer, which I have heard of happening. |
What about handing over my passport and FM-T to the lawyer who's getting me my FM3? |
Samantha's answer that follows is correct - and personally, I would never pay someone to do my tr�mite anyway. I know it can be a pain in the butt, but never insurmountable - especially for someone like you that speaks good Spanish. |
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notamiss
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Phil_K wrote: |
A word of warning to any newbies.
Never hand over your passport to anyone. It isn't required by anyone - least of all an employer, which I have heard of happening. |
| MO39 wrote: |
What about handing over my passport and FM-T to the lawyer who's getting me my FM3? |
As I understand it, or at least as it happened to me... [though we've already seen that things can vary], Immigration has to see the original of your passport at least once. They inspect the copy, comparing it to the original (cotejar) right in front of you while you wait, and then give you back the original.
Now, if you're having the lawyer go to Immigration for you, either he has to take it along and bring it back the day that the passport gets cotejado, or you have to accompany him if you don't want it out of your sight. |
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Oreen Scott
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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Phil K. wrote: personally, I would never pay someone to do my tr�mite anyway. I know it can be a pain in the butt, but never insurmountable - especially for someone like you that speaks good Spanish.
My question: What about someone such as myself with only limited Spanish? |
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TheLongWayHome
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Oreen Scott wrote: |
Phil K. wrote: personally, I would never pay someone to do my tr�mite anyway. I know it can be a pain in the butt, but never insurmountable - especially for someone like you that speaks good Spanish.
My question: What about someone such as myself with only limited Spanish? |
Take someone with you who speaks Spanish. You don't want to get frustrated and end up doing the 'gringo dance' down at migracion (gringo is not nationality specific where the dance is concerned).
Interesting thread. I gave my passport to my boss and he took all the papers down to migracion. All I had to do was go there and pick up my FM2. I trust the guy but it sounds like I probably shouldn't have done it that way. |
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dixie
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I also have handed my passport over - twice. Both times the schools I was/am working for were taking care of the process. I had no part in it. |
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Dragonlady
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dixie
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| Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| Dragonlady wrote: |
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| ... I had no part in it... |
Oh no, no no... you may think that, but whose name is on everything? Do you not remember signing a million pieces of paper? Did you read them? Were they explained to you?
Dixie (and others) I think your employer was one of the (many) good guys.
But obtaining work permits are the responsibility of the worker. If the employer helps you with the process and/or if they do the leg work for you, great. If they cover the expenses involved, god bless them. It's a perk, not an obligation on their part and should be treated as such.
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In each of my cases, it was actually the responsibility of the schools, as stated in my contract. They have lawyers that deal with the process, and it is actually more important for them, then it is for me (although it is really important for me too!  )
Of course things can go wrong, but in these situations, not overly likely. |
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MELEE
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland
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As I understand it, or at least as it happened to me... [though we've already seen that things can vary], Immigration has to see the original of your passport at least once. They inspect the copy, comparing it to the original (cotejar) right in front of you while you wait, and then give you back the original.
Now, if you're having the lawyer go to Immigration for you, either he has to take it along and bring it back the day that the passport gets cotejado, or you have to accompany him if you don't want it out of your sight. |
If a third party is handling your documents, you have another option--instead of a plain copy and the orginal to cotejar you can have a Mexican notary public make a notarized copy of your passport (every page) and send that with the lawyer or school representative. |
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MO39
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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Despite the dire warnings of some of the posters on this thread, I did hand my passport over to the lawyer who's handling the FM3 tr�mites for me. I did this yesterday, and today, when I went back to his office to turn in my TEFL certificate and sign a letter for Migraci�n, he returned my passport to me. No problems, no muss, no fuss!
By the way, for anyone thinking of applying for an FM3 to work independently as an English teacher, the official designation in Spanish is
Instructora (or Instructor) del Idioma Ingl�s de Manera Independiente. |
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