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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting that I have never been to a potluck in the US... only in the Gulf... and mostly in the homes of non-Americans. I hear about them here in the US, but it's always married people or related church dinners and such in small towns. I suspect that is where the idea evolved from.

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Mia Xanthi



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Location: why is my heart still in the Middle East while the rest of me isn't?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The potluck dinner is still very common in the south, where it probably evolved as a way of letting people socialize without having to spend a lot of money. Overseas, I have usually experienced this as an opportunity for colleagues to enjoy each other's culinary expertise -- those little tastes of home that we miss but cannot necessarily produce ourselves.

I know that in Aramco in the late 70s and early 80s, the potluck was organized as a form of entertainment. They would declare a theme (such as Mediterranean food, or Indian food) and give each participant a recipe to cook. When you're bored in the desert, this is a fine way to amuse yourselves and establish a sense of community.

In other words, I defend the common potluck as a fine, wholesome practice!
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007



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
We had one who sold his old running shoes and his wife's breast pump. Do not know if he found a buyer.

Well, Uncle Scotty and his Brits associates, you know very well that the above tradition exist in UK and is known as 'car boot sale' where people from all walk of life sell their old items like shoes, bicycles, broken TV, you name it! Even some pay 5 pounds for park tax, and at the end of the day their income may not reach 5 pounds!
So, they are using the same tradition in the magic kingdom!

BTW, Uncle Scotty, I have got a pair of Irish shoes with high heels (3 in high) for sale, do you want them? For you, only $10. Laughing
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear 007,

I am NOT going to ask why you are in possession of such an item. Your claim, however, could incite rampant speculation.
Regards,
John
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They would declare a theme (such as Mediterranean food, or Indian food) and give each participant a recipe to cook


I can't speak for Khobar, but in Riyadh there is no shortage of excellent, great-value Indian foods which will cater for a small fee. Why anyone would turn down this option in order to sample Kompound Kate's effort at Dahl Makhani, really is beyond me..

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When you're bored in the desert, this is a fine way to amuse yourselves and establish a sense of community.


As I say, each to their own. I've never (yet) been so bored in the desert - or anywhere else - that I would consider an evening spent munching a colleague's burned lasagne to be an amusing pastime.

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Irish shoes


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cmp45



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Cleopatra"]As I say, each to their own. I've never (yet) been so bored in the desert - or anywhere else - that I would consider an evening spent munching a colleague's burned lasagne to be an amusing pastime.
[quote]

Well...even if it isn't a pot luck, it could turn out that you end up eating the host's burnt lasagna Shocked

Looked at another way...with a pot luck...you could increase the odds of at least getting something that is tasty.

anyways...enjoy the pot lucks or not...am out of here for the month of August....chat with ya'll again in September!
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007



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear 007,

I am NOT going to ask why you are in possession of such an item. Your claim, however, could incite rampant speculation.
Regards,
John

Well, in reality, I did find them in my apartment. It seems the guy who was living before me in the apartment left them, and I guess his wife was an Irish, because this type of shoes is specifically designed for Irish dancer. So, I said it is a good idea to sell them to Uncle Scotty! Laughing

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Irish shoes
???

Well, Irish shoes are handcrafted, and designed specifically for dancers!
Tante Cleo, if you want them I can offer a good price, only $5 for you. Laughing
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grahamb



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Identity crisis Reply with quote

Can't see why Scot47 would want to buy Irish dancing shoes... unless he changed his name to "Irishwoman47."
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Imdramayu



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I just packed up in my old country of residence to move to KSA, I had a "masalama" sale. But there is a dilemna: give it away or sell it. If you don't give it away, some people may have to buy a new one anyway. The new one is always much greater than the used one, so us selling used stuff caused other people to have to buy new stuff. On the other hand, we're going to buy new stuff in our new home we're moving to. So, I sold only big things (e.g., Jumparoo, stuffed animals, furniture, etc.)

The Social Committee at my school tried to start a system to help. They wanted to collect stuff that departing employees had (in June), store it over the summer, then sell it to the new employees (in August/September). We thought it was a great idea but it never worked out. The school's senior management or HR didn't think it would work, we couldn't find a space to store stuff. Nevertheless, this is the ideal situation: people leaving help the people coming (even though they never meet). It seems unfair and bad timing that all this selling happens in May/June while all this buying happens in August/September. We wanted to find a solution to connect both parties.
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can't see why Scot47 would want to buy Irish dancing shoes... unless he changed his name to "Irishwoman47."


Even so, I can't see why he/she would want such shoes, particularly as they do not actually exist.

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his wife was an Irish


What is 'an Irish"??? An exotic c***tail or something?

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So, I sold only big things (e.g., Jumparoo, stuffed animals, furniture, etc.)


Me too. If there were things I didn't want to bring with me, but also didn't want to throw out, I would either give them away to friends, or leave them in the apartment for the cleaners to take - if they wanted to.

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then sell it to the new employees (in August/September).


Good lord, your employers must have been in dire financial straits if they planned to sell minor household items which were not in fact theirs to sell in the first place. They might have been better offering employers a decent settling in allowance, which would enable them to buy what they needed without having to scavenge from other teachers' left-overs. Or they could just buy new stuff from their own money - which is what they vast majority of us do anyway, and live to tell the tale.

It's a pet hate of mine when staff members are seen as charity objects to be taken care of, not by management, but by their colleagues.
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Imdramayu



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:53 pm    Post subject: Camping Reply with quote

Well, Cleo, I don't want to stroke the fire of your pet hate, but employees helping future employees is a good idea. I wouldn't suggest this if someone is joining a company for a long time or will stay in the same city (like in New York City or Paris). But, in EFL, I feel like I am camping when I move into a new job & related housing. I may be at this job for only a few years (or longer if things work out). Since we're working under contracts in a field like EFL, life is more transient and temporary. If someone has to buy brand new stuff every time he moves into new housing, it will become a burden and a nuisance. If someone can help him, that's great.

I agree that most new employees don't want too much help. They wish to figure things out themselves. For example, at my school, the Social Committee started a Host Program. This program would collect names of old employees who wanted to help out or be a "buddy" to a new arriving employee. New employees would be offered to take advantage of this program. In fact, of 60 new employees last year, only two wanted buddies from the Host Program.
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scot47



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lockheed used to give a cash incentive to older employees to socialise with new arrivals. "Take this 500 SR and show Hank how to enjoy Jeddah."
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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t employees helping future employees is a good idea. I


Well yes, nobody would argue that it is a good thing to help out newly arrived colleagues. However, what I resent is the expectation of some employers, whereby teachers are given the responsibility of settling new people in. I do not feel that I should have any obligation - except normal professionalism - towards colleagues I have never met. If I went to take them shopping, tell them how to get a mobile phone (and I often do) then fine, but if I don't, the college should have a system whereby members of administration and/or management cater to the needs of new arrivals.


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This program would collect names of old employees who wanted to help out or be a "buddy" to a new arriving employee.


Apart from the objections above, I've always thought this 'buddy' thing is silly and contrived. I mean, what happens if you get to be a 'buddy' with a total nutcase - always a distinct possibility in the K of SA?
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I mean, what happens if you get to be a 'buddy' with a total nutcase
Well somebody has to do the job.

The point about the 'buddy' system is that each new member of staff knows where to go when he has a query or a problem. It's not necessary even to like your 'buddy', you just have to be able to give him information and a little help settling in.

And it's disingenuous to expect 'management' to arrange everything. One of the main things the 'buddy' actually does is explain to the newbie how to find his way around the management structure.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How did we get from electrical supplies and voltage to my choice of
footwear ?!?

I am certainly NOT going to buy second-hand IRISH women's shoes ! From 007 or anyone else.
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