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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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A top o' the day to you my friend, NCTBA!
"I thought that this was the JAPAN board. Everybody and his uncle knows that East Bum#%*& is in Egypt!  "
The one in Egypt must be the original one. I was thinking of the one in New Jersey.
(Okay. I won't goof around off-topic anymore 
But only because I'm now going to sleep.)  |
Nighty, night!
Now, back to the interupted program...
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elkarlo
Joined: 08 Dec 2008
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Location: Maryland
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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Have you checked that the kind of gym you are looking for is that widespread in Japan? I think you might find there aren't that many gyms which have your martial arts style- it's not one I'm familiar with, and I certainly haven't seen gyms advertising it anywhere in Tokyo, although I'm sure they exist.
In the more rural regions, including Okayama, I wouldn't place bets on being able to find much other than the usual Kyokushin karate, kendo, aikido etc.
If you have already found a gym in Okayama, great, I hear it's a nice area. |
Yes it is widespread in Japan. There was a gym in Hirakata. Though I would settle for Judo, as long as they do a fair amount of Newaza
Here is the Knaji 格闘技. It is pretty common. A lot of guys are into it. You may have seen it in K-1, Dearm, Pride, or Sengoku. Or Brazilian JiuJitsu as it is known in the US.
I haven't been able to figure out if there is a gym in Okayama though. I find it hard to do searches in Japanese. |
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elkarlo
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Elkarlo,
It's JL again. I can chip in with a little bit about Shooto. (Aspara, I hate to do this to you, but...  ) Shooto has a vast network of gyms across Japan. And beyond Shooto, there are all kinds of MMA varieties in Japan. I won't try and say what's "in" right now, because its always changing. But whether you want to do cage fighting, grapple with a gi, or both, you'll find it as long as you in some sort of urban setting.
Of course, you are 100% correct that Tokyo is where the action is -especially if you want to fight. I don't have the stats, but I'd say 80% to 90% of the big fight venues are held in and around Tokyo. And lots of smaller ones, if you're just starting out.
I was already an old man at the time, but I actually trained for a year at K'z Factory, when Rumina Sato was still (occasionally) training there. Actually got to roll with him once. (He kicked my fat, old a$$). I did get the better of him(just barely) in stand-up, on another day, though...
But I was already in my mid-30's. Now I'm into my 40's (sigh)...
Here's the Shooto webpage. It's in Japanese, but you can see the map and see the various locations where gyms are. Where do you train, BTW. Had any fights yet, amateur or pro?
http://www.x-shooto.jp/gym/index.html
(See Rumina's mug and blog, right there on top at right!) |
Wow thank you so much. I have been competing in MMA since 2004, so I am a bit of a old hat in it=) My first fight was in an aboandoned warehouse. To be honest I would not mind doing afight or two while I'm here. But I do hate cutting weight @_@
You got to roll with Sato? Wow, I am jealous. It is just amazing how much better those guys are than normal people. I am a Blue belt. I can womp white belts. I get womped by upper belts, who get womped by Black belts, who then in turn get beat down by these guys.
I got to meet Shogun and Ninja, they were some cool guys. Had some crazy aggressive standup and kinda oddly aggressive BJJ. As most BJJ seems to be more methodical, especailly from Brazil.
I train in Maryland, I am in Lloyd Irvings association. I am 2-2-1 in MMA. Not so great. Lost my 2 first fights to Goti's grand nephew. but have been inactive as of late. Went back and finished school.
Oh there are 2 gyms by the look of it in Okayama. So IF I can go there I am. You really REALLY helped me out. Thank you so much.
PS out of curiosity how do they treat Gaijin in the gym? I was in a karate club at KansaiGaidai, and kinda got treated like a kid. Despite actually being skilled. They kinda just put me in the corner and ignored me.
But I figure something like Shooto, would be more like a gym, and be more freindly. |
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elkarlo
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| Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| ...it would be better for elkarlo to confirm that there actually are the kinds of gyms he is looking for where he is going, rather than just to assume that there would be- could result in disappointment |
True enough! And if he is stuck out in East Bum#%*&, somewhere, he WILL be disappointed, now that we know what's been on his mind. |
Haha thanks for looking out for me guys. I will be super dissapointed if I get put in an area with no access to one of these gyms. I'm not going to Japan for ANime or to score J-girls, I'm going because I want to roll around with sweaty men |
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JL
Joined: 26 Oct 2008
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Location: Las Vegas, NV USA
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"PS out of curiosity how do they treat Gaijin in the gym?"
It's true, an MMA gym, like shooto, is more relaxed than a karate dojo. But -and this applies to anything you'll do in Japan- you're still going to have to "fit in." Might take about two weeks, but soon enough you'll start feeling like "one of the guys". Once they see that you're observant of how they do things there, that you're respectful of the stronger fighters, that you jump right in to help when they're cleaning the mats, etc., I'm sure you'll be accepted. Needless to say, act like a know-it-all, or a jerk, or not pay attention to the gym hierarchy, etc., and you'll probably find yourself stuck in the corner again.
I highly, HIGHLY recommend you pursue this, though. You're gonna love it. On your off time, getting out of the classroom and into a setting with a bunch of Japanese guys, and sharing a common passion like this, is a great way to really get to know Japan well. You're going to see your Japanese ability SOAR. Some of these guys you meet in the gym might end up being your friends for life, even after you return to the U.S.. You're doing the right thing. Just make sure you do it the right way. |
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elkarlo
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| Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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"PS out of curiosity how do they treat Gaijin in the gym?"
It's true, an MMA gym, like shooto, is more relaxed than a karate dojo. But -and this applies to anything you'll do in Japan- you're still going to have to "fit in." Might take about two weeks, but soon enough you'll start feeling like "one of the guys". Once they see that you're observant of how they do things there, that you're respectful of the stronger fighters, that you jump right in to help when they're cleaning the mats, etc., I'm sure you'll be accepted. Needless to say, act like a know-it-all, or a jerk, or not pay attention to the gym hierarchy, etc., and you'll probably find yourself stuck in the corner again.
I highly, HIGHLY recommend you pursue this, though. You're gonna love it. On your off time, getting out of the classroom and into a setting with a bunch of Japanese guys, and sharing a common passion like this, is a great way to really get to know Japan well. You're going to see your Japanese ability SOAR. Some of these guys you meet in the gym might end up being your friends for life, even after you return to the U.S.. You're doing the right thing. Just make sure you do it the right way. |
That is my plan. I think MMA is a great form of bonding. Especially without a lot of the ritual that will take me forever to learn. Plus I don't like it.
I really hope it will work out. I don't plan on being a jerk, and proving myself.
I guess the best part will be my Japanese ability to explian body position and angles will be leveld up.
I'm going to PM you when I get close to leaving, and know where I'm going.
Thanks for the help. |
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