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dynow



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for whatever reason, although it's taken a beating on this thread, I can still stomach a couple Tyskie when served cold. when all i got on me is a handful of coins, Tyskie isn't half bad. not tasty at all, but there's nothing that outright bothers me about the flavor.

during the summer in someone's backyard, horseshoe pit with a group of friends.....it's toleratable.
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Harry from NWE



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sgt Bilko wrote:
Yeah, and you can't get a decent steak and kidney pie or Cornish Pastie for love nor money. Fortunately, I have the complete Delia and can cook my own. Surely there's an American version of Delia (she's a cookery book writer for those who don't know)
Check out www.irishshop.pl, they have FrayBentos tinned pies. Also check out the frozen steak pie at Marks & Spencer in Warsaw, those are very good indeed.


dynow wrote:
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Yeah, and you can't get a decent steak


i didn't think steak was even worth mentioning.
You can get good steak at a couple of places in Warsaw. My top three would be NoBo (stunningly good, at least as good as any steak I have ever had in the UK), Villa Rossini (although it's a bit of a waste to have steak there) and the London Steakhouse (I haven't eaten there for a while but ate about a hundred steaks over a four year period there and never had a bad one, although few of them were excellent either).
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Scawie



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okocim make OK beer:

http://www.okocim.pl/okbeer.htm
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dynow



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not to continue veering away from the beer topic but.....meat and beer kinda go hand and hand so:

it actually always kind of surprised me that the beef was so sub-par in Poland due to the fact that their pork is excellent along with chicken. I've been eating chicken in Poland for over 2 years now so i tend to forget what chicken tasted like in the states, but i can distinctly remember my first day in Poland, my aunt cooked up a breaded and fried chicken breast for me and I said to myself, "oh, so THAT'S what chicken tastes like." chicken in the states seemed to be rather tasteless after that day. although i prefer American means of chicken preperation/seasoning/sauces etc., standing alone i prefer Polish chicken.

I'll have to try a steak in Poland one day at a reputable restaurant.....it's just getting past the huge price tag for something I will already have low expectations of.
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simon_porter00



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scawie wrote:
Okocim make OK beer:

http://www.okocim.pl/okbeer.htm


Okocim is the worst kind of devil's pi55 on the market.
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Harry from NWE



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dynow wrote:
I'll have to try a steak in Poland one day at a reputable restaurant.....it's just getting past the huge price tag for something I will already have low expectations of.
From memory the steak at NoBo is about 55zl and is money very well spent. I was thinking about that first NoBo steak for days after I had it.



simon_porter00 wrote:
Okocim is the worst kind of devil's pi55 on the market.
I take it you have never had the misfortune to drink EB.
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Jack Walker



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dynow wrote:
not to continue veering away from the beer topic but.....meat and beer kinda go hand and hand so:

it actually always kind of surprised me that the beef was so sub-par in Poland due to the fact that their pork is excellent along with chicken. I've been eating chicken in Poland for over 2 years now so i tend to forget what chicken tasted like in the states, but i can distinctly remember my first day in Poland, my aunt cooked up a breaded and fried chicken breast for me and I said to myself, "oh, so THAT'S what chicken tastes like." chicken in the states seemed to be rather tasteless after that day. although i prefer American means of chicken preperation/seasoning/sauces etc., standing alone i prefer Polish chicken.

I'll have to try a steak in Poland one day at a reputable restaurant.....it's just getting past the huge price tag for something I will already have low expectations of.





It's true.Poland has some great chicken/pork/deli meats.Some of the best I've ever tasted.......but the beef! Rolling Eyes

Occasionally,I'll buy a beef steak at the local butchers or at one of the supermarkets.The thing is,I have to marinate the devil for at least 2 days before grilling. and even then,it's easy to lose a tooth from gnawing on the leather-like meat.

Polish beef is terribly tough and lean.They just don't produce good beef here.

Steakhouses are an option, but the price tag keeps an old miser like me away.

About Tyskie:In the bottles or cans, it's not a bad brew served up nice and cold on a warm day.On tap at the pubs, it's absolutely horrible and is best avoided.
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simon_porter00



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jack Walker wrote:


and even then,it's easy to lose a tooth from gnawing on the leather-like meat.



Have you been eating my wife's cooking as well? Wink

To be fair, the in-laws do a fantastic job of preparing meat dishes. Whether it's village meat (i.e. fresh - i remember one morning when my father in law came into the house carrying half a just killed veal carcass) or simply time and care taken in the butchers, meat out in the sticks tastes a whole lot better then the stuff you get in Warsaw.
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Jack Walker



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

simon_porter00 wrote:
Jack Walker wrote:


and even then,it's easy to lose a tooth from gnawing on the leather-like meat.



Have you been eating my wife's cooking as well? Wink

To be fair, the in-laws do a fantastic job of preparing meat dishes. Whether it's village meat (i.e. fresh - i remember one morning when my father in law came into the house carrying half a just killed veal carcass) or simply time and care taken in the butchers, meat out in the sticks tastes a whole lot better then the stuff you get in Warsaw.




I've got my own wife's cooking to contend with! Wink
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Blasphemer



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

have you seen this one yet?

It's cheaper than your average wheat beer, but it's absolutely amazing.
Unfiltered, non pasteurized and matured in the bottle.

http://piweczko.org/files/img/beer/4307.jpg
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Blasphemer



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

simon_porter00 wrote:


Okocim is the worst kind of devil's pi55 on the market.


Okocim wheat is not bad.
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simon_porter00



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gotta say I'm getting to be a big fan of the non-pasteurized beers. I always try a new one if I can see one on the shelf. Last week on nowy swiat there was a kind of farmer's market where lots of people were selling micro-micro brewery beer (you got the feeling they were making it in their sheds). I stayed away from the cherry and other fruit beers, but the 'jasne' 'mocne' and 'ciemny' non-pas versions were very nice. Made you toot in the morning though, mind you i'm getting old so that might just be me ......
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Master Shake



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

simon_porter00 wrote:
gotta say I'm getting to be a big fan of the non-pasteurized beers. I always try a new one if I can see one on the shelf. Last week on nowy swiat there was a kind of farmer's market where lots of people were selling micro-micro brewery beer (you got the feeling they were making it in their sheds). I stayed away from the cherry and other fruit beers, but the 'jasne' 'mocne' and 'ciemny' non-pas versions were very nice. Made you toot in the morning though, mind you i'm getting old so that might just be me ......


Did you try the honey beer? Really did have a strong honey flavor. But I wouldn't drink more than a pint of that sweet stuff.

But yes, there were a lot of good darker beers on Nowy Swiat. Great spread of regional Polish breads, sausages and cheeses there as well.

I couldn't believe my eyes. The most popular stand served bread smeared with lard and topped with pickles Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 10:17 am    Post subject: harrumph Reply with quote

Stay in Poland long enough and you forget what real quality beer tastes like.
I love booze, but Polish beer makes me wretch after just a couple. Usually, it's got too much gas, or the lines aren't cleaned or it just tastes Krap. Beer needs to be stored at the correct temperature and if you get thast wrong, lager becomes frothy/fizzy and real ale just ain't right. Chillers need energy and power costs money; therein lies the problem.

As for the beef? Well that's just butcher's not knowing how to carve up an animal properly. Yep the pork's great, all that Golonka, the Zeberka etc, but they can't do good bacon, so it's the butchers and not the meat.

BTW meals out have got pretty expensive in Poznan. In fact pub food (steaks, liver and bacon, fish and chips, all day breakfasts, sausage and mash etc) is much cheaper in the UK and much tastier.

The hotels are the killer for me though; 200 Zl for a dive, 300Zl for a slightly better dive like the Merkure or Lech Poznan (old Polish beds with enormous pillows and faulty showers) and 600-800 Zl plus for a Sheraton, which incidentally was only about 300Zl in the wealthiest country per capita in the world, Qatar.

I've just paid 2000Zl for my 10-year-old son's school ski trip to Karpach....madness! For 420 quid I can have 10 days all inclusive in Malta or Sharm.

Poland's a money trap now.
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Tracer



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:01 pm    Post subject: Tatra Reply with quote

I've been drinking Tatra lately. I'd say it's an exception to the rule. The flavor is decent and no nasty żywiec like side effects. It's not the best beer I've ever had, but it beats all of the other big beers in Poland (in my book).

So there you have it ladies and gentlemen. Consider this my endorsement for a relatively popular (in poland) Polish beer.
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