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[Mojoski]

"You still have absolutely no clue, do you? Do you understand what semester hours are? Have you bothered to find out? Besides, wasn't this about academic credentials and QTS?" -Kowlooner

Yes, Bogey misunderstands what semester hours are, but the point that's not being emphasized here is that (as I understand it) experience BEFORE qualification is not recognized in the NET hiring process. Please correct me, if I'm wrong, but this is how I read it. Marcoregano makes a good point that putting in an application can't hurt. The fact that the experience was in Hong Kong might help, but my guess is that it would only matter if the postqualification experience and all the other requirements (which she seems to have or will soon have) are met as well.

In my case, I do meet the minimum requirements but only at the Category 6 level. I have applied through a recruiter but haven't received a response yet. The deadline to apply directly was Feb. 28, but this recruiter is holding interviews nearby in about 3 weeks from now. My conjecture is that the NET program has contracted with some recruiters for a certain number of positions to be delivered at a certain date which has not yet arrived. Anybody know if I'm on the right track here?

Is there a snowballs chance in the desert of being taken as a Category 6?

[texasisthereason]

[Marcoregano]

I feel certain that the NET prog will at least recognise your past teaching experience when they consider your suitability for appointment - why wouldn't they? And they may even consider it in terms of your starting salary. This was debated on another thread recently, with 'you-know-who' adamant that they do not recognise pre-qualification experience for salary scale, whereas others thought that they do.

[texasisthereason]

Thanks Marcoregano - I had read that thread as well and wasn't sure whether my experience would be considered or not. I have letters of recommendation as well as proof of employment.

I'm aware that the NET process is a long and tedious one, I just wasn't sure as to when to apply. As I have mentioned before---my degree will not be completed until December and did not know if the NET scheme/EDB would consider it until then.

I will go ahead and apply to see what headway I can make. I appreciate the insight and advice.

[texasisthereason]

bogey------no response love???? did you already back out of information???!!!!! you were so adamant about the qualifications and now you've seemed to have shoved off. A bit of cowardice has set in or a loss of pride?

[Yes Sir I Can Bogey]

Actually, my not responding simply represents a lack � or rather, a total absence � of any interest in you and your affairs. If you want to convince yourself that you can waltz into a cushy post at an international school in HK then that is up to you.

[texasisthereason]

Bogey bogey bogey---- no one said that they were waltzing into a "cushy" job at an international program, love. It was a simple question as to how to apply to one.

All you had to do in these posts was to state HOW to apply to the NET or international institution---- allow them to select candidates based on their qualifications; nothing more. Yet you stepped in and made your own decision based on the ignorance of hours in university classes. Well done mate.

So----- you end up looking foolish and not passing along any useful information. So what is the point of being on this board? To look like an ass? Job well done.

I WILL be in HK and i will work in HK. Simple enough. Was looking for some information to make the transfer easier.

[Yes Sir I Can Bogey]

Well, I've also taught IBD at an international school and I can say for a fact that you will stand little if any chance of securing a post at such an institution. Your behaviour on this forum alone makes that clear.

In a few months time you will be on this forum whining about how you can't find a decent job. Then I will try and resist the temptation to say I told you so.

[kevinsays]

ok bogey, we thank you for your undying pessimism and as welcome as it is, we don't need or want to know how little chances we have of attaining a proper teaching gig in hk. We already know it's about 5-10% chance, we don't need you to repeatedly tell us that. We're asking for advice on the best approach so that we can have as much information as possible when we try for that 5-10%.

we don't need you to tell us how inexperienced or unqualified/dumb we are. i hope your approach as a teacher isn't what you have showcased on this forum or else it would be us sending out prayers to your students.

anyway, so, how about the names to those backalley language centres that you were referring to? you know, the ones that pay the measly $250hkd per hour.

[texasisthereason]

bogey--- significant other holds a university post that is 5 years in contract in HK. That includes housing mate. I will have 7 years of teaching experience along with a BSc. and a teaching certification and PE liscence. I am very confident that I will be a candidate for the NET as well as the international program. I won't whinge here about not finding a job; nor will I moan about working language schools. I didn't have to last time around, why this one?
It's going to be okay bogey----it's not my first rodeo. I have a flat lined up in Central as well as mates across the board for support. Do you want to gamble as to how I will be doing in a year??? I'll be fine my brother. I'll be stunning.

[Yes Sir I Can Bogey]

[Yes Sir I Can Bogey]

[texasisthereason]

bogey--- i was worried about making the minimum of 25 posts in order to PM on this board---but you make this all but too easy. It's as if you own an encyclopedia of misinformation and feel no shame in looking like a fool online. I guess it's anonymous so feel free to plug away.

So you are telling me the mate of mine that has a degree from Chulalongkorn University and is now heading up the HR department of a major software company in Colorado should consider his degree worthless?

Or the acquaintance in HK that teachers at a large university with a degree from Bangkok University should not be "recognised" as a preofessor?

Huh....interesting. I'll place this "experience" on my CV because it is A) honest and B) experience.

I'm unsure of what your credentials are in determining what is considered professional experience---but I do hope that you realize it is a big exciting world out there and you seem to suffer from myopia.

I sincerely hope that you are a troll---- otherwise you seem to have a knack of embarrassing yourself on a continuing basis.

Keep it up--- I need the additional posts mate.

[Yes Sir I Can Bogey]

[texasisthereason]